European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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UEFA should just kick out City, Chelsea and Madrid from the CL semi finals. Replace them with Porto, Dortmund and Atalanta. That will send a message.
 
They have college sports. Where people from all backgrounds and level of society get a chance to get an education and have a chance to play at the elite national level. So be quiet if you aren’t going to bring anything productive to a debate.

Yes college not grassroots. Its the same issue. Unless you are an elite competitor you will have no funding. So no Sunday league no local teams no natural growth or progression. No grassroots football. I know American sports well and there is nothing at the grassroots level except basic pick up games.
 
How exactly? These 15 teams would play all 3 - domestic leagues, CL and ESLs. If they don't qualify for CL, they will just play ESL.

It's just an additional revenue which they want to explore. It has nothing to do with existing domestic leagues or CLs

Really ? It's supposed to replace CL for these teams actually. UEFA won't allow them to participate in both, because it'll undermine CL and their authority.

Most probably domestic leagues will also follow.
 
Why do they have to ruin what is good.

I feel CL is good as it is. Maybe improve it to 64 teams if they want and remove EL.

Although I like having two tournaments to be honest.

Its not working for them as the biggest draws to the competition, they are losing money and are being told to suck it up and take even more burden by UEFA
 
It could be this
Was my first thought too. A power play to throw a wrench in the works of the UEFA plans. They can't be actually serious with this, can they?
It would mean the end of UEFA and of the whole European football architecture as it is, a complete re-ordering, would they really want to take this risk?

The whole thing is depressing. The sport being devoured by the financial industry in front of our eyes.
 
The whole problem with City and Chelsea buying the league could have been avoided if the PL imposed a rule stating that clubs could only spend a maximum of 80% of their yearly revenue on players. Academies can only send out a certain number of players on loan. An owner isn't allowed to own more than one club in European football.

Boom, no more artificial clubs.

"But clubs could just cook the books".

My response to that is, it's illegal to do so. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would see it's dodgy if a club went from making 40M one season to making 300M in commercial revenue the next.

Is that idea too simple to have worked? Basically, owners can't invest money into the club in terms of buying players, but can invest it into infrastructure instead.
 
The most ridiculous opinions are that this is 'just an extra tournament'. what days are left to play another large tournament ? do players go to playing weekend, tuesday night, thursday night?
 
It's a fact. If you want to watch Cluj vs Rosenburg then head over to the Europa league and have a gander there. In the mean time, the clubs that actually have a chance of winning the CL should be competing for the CL. That is the loosest application of daring to compete I've ever seen. It's like bringing a spud gun to the beaches of Normandy on D Day and "competing".
Nah, I'll just watch them in the CL. You go on and be mad about it, though.
 
Its too much of a time investment for them to do both competitions. Essentially initially you will just have your b team do domestic commitments then the a team do the superleague

Why would we devalue our domestic league that's giving us close to 100m every season as gate revenues? The club's existence is on match going fans and that won't be compromised.
 
its driven by the owners, who gets fired? Even Fergie says he knew nothing about this discussion

Sir Alex wouldnt know. He isnt even on the board of directors. There has to be an ability to fire those responsible. The owners wont make this decision unilaterally. It will be considered by senior execs who make the decisions. Who can be fired.
 
The most ridiculous opinions are that this is 'just an extra tournament'. what days are left to play another large tournament ? do players go to playing weekend, tuesday night, thursday night?
It's supposed to replace the CL for the included teams, because they're fecked off with UEFA for not giving them more money.
 
Nothing wil come out of this.

It's just a bit of power struggle leaked in the press.

Which is fine with me, we can't have FIFA and UEFA do all the decision making, something has to be given to the clubs.
 
Conspiracy! But you know I remember growing up and hearing about people criticizing international football and being a 'nationalist' is now viewed as that silly word people throw around. SO I think it's crazy enough to happen eventually. That greeds pushed through and you'll see big nations lose big players almost sucking dry the international game as a result. This always happens just like the champions league wouldn't just 'co exist'..it would be diluted. Just like the FA Cups been down the years. It wasn't that long ago, it was a major trophy but that's been sucked dry by greed. Of course no money club should be involved, so why would Chelsea or City or perhaps a psg in future be involved at all? If these types of clubs are involved, then it being a 'protest' is a lie and it is in reality because we all know this 'ideas been fermenting well before it's time
 
If it is one big bluff the Premier League should absolutely feck over the 5 teams involved in someway in case they want to repeat it down the line.
It would be naïve from the FA just to move on it if nothing materialises
 
Really ? It's supposed to replace CL for these teams actually. UEFA won't allow them to participate in both, because it'll undermine CL and their authority.

Most probably domestic leagues will also follow.
Again, that how I understand. No one has said anything about leaving CL. The issue here is , UEFA isn't getting their share and that's it. It has nothing to do integrity. UEFA doesn't want FIFA to eat all the money with the clubs from Europe.
 
Macron also against The Super League (article in Italian)
Macronne said no to the super league, wrong project

 
It’s not just a leak lads. You wouldn’t have the prime minister tweeting about it if it was just noise without substance. Quite clearly these plans are ADVANCED already.
 


Exactly, the question is whether the UEFA will cave once again and what are they going to give up. The last time they added "legacy" prize money based on 10 years coefficient ranking and TV market pool.
 
Well, mate, surely you can understand that its not some fecking committee made of Ed Woodward, Juan Laporta, Perez, and good aul Silvio that should be making these decisions? I mean surely?

Yes of course, but they’re all crooks as far as I’m concerned, including the current ruling authorities who are so angrily speaking out against this. Game was lost to money long ago.
 
Hope the announcement is of them backtracking. But even if they do, The damage is done.
 
The details aren't out yet but I think you might be missing the point.

The domestic leagues will move heaven and earth to stop this breakaway. The rich clubs do not get to choose which competitions they get to participate in-the domestic leagues will make that decision for them.

I am assuming the rich clubs have considered the possibility that by joining a super league they be burning all bridges with their domestic leagues and players participation in international tournaments.
Seems like you are the one missing the point here. Noone has said anything about leaving the domestic clubs or the current version of CL. People are overreacting.
 
Look at how much the big clubs in England have been forced to spend to still watch City win 3 of the past 4 PL's, it's monumental sums of cash to be second best*, at best, and it only looks like getting more expensive and more difficult to stick with them. City will dominate until the U.A.E gets bored, that much is clear, it's incredible just how far they have come in such a short time.
Anyone spending those sums previously was guaranteed a title.

Clubs are panicking at how the can continue to attract players with these wages and the fees versus City, PSG and the worry of the likes of Saudi ownership, that's why they are so desperate to guarantee their futures with guaranteed revenues from a Super League.
Why are City and PSG have been asked to join in this then ? Wouldn't their non ending funding still impact the ESL ?