European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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They wouldn't get nearly the same amount of participation fee that the likes of United or real are likely to get. The big guys will also no doubt have some other rules to suit them

No, they were offered the same deal than every other founders, as did Bayern, Schalke, Dortmund, Lyon and iirc Marseille. The fact that all french and german clubs haven't been mentioned today is strange.
 
Macronne statement

France, the Elysée communiqué continues, "will support all the steps" taken by the French League, UEFA and FIFA "to protect the integrity of federal, national and European competitions".
Macron.
 
Again, that how I understand. No one has said anything about leaving CL. The issue here is , UEFA isn't getting their share and that's it. It has nothing to do integrity. UEFA doesn't want FIFA to eat all the money with the clubs from Europe.

The Superleague is a replacement for the Champions League set in a league format in which case the founding members are permanent members.

This is the rich clubs buying a permanent spot in the new European Superleague.

No fans want this. No leagues want this. This will end the European competitions as we know them. The ONLY people that want this are the respective club owners.
 
The FA, Uefa, Boris and Co can feck off with their condemnation, as if they're not bent as feck themselves.

On the Super League....it is already tarnished by having Spurs there.
 
All about the money, which it has been for a while now I guess. Frankly I've began to just not care. Owners with zero interest in the club outside of filling their own pockets. 22 millionaires kicking a ball and feeling sorry for themselves when things don't go their way. Why should I sympathize, care for or support this? Would probably be the final nail in the coffin for my interest in the game.
 
The clubs won't leave CL, they'll be kicked out from it. UEFA won't acknowledge this competition by allowing the clubs to play in both and just move on. It undermines them if they allowed these teams to still participate in their own competitions.

And there's no place in the agenda to fit both together anyway. You can't shoehorn the league + domestic cups + CL + this shit competition in one agenda. The clubs will prefer the money offered in this competition more than the less money offered by CL. You're dreaming if you think it's just an added competition to the list. It's supposed to replace the CL all together because these clubs aren't content with its money.

No one is kicking anyone out. They can all scare the clubs like that but it just won't stand in the court. The PL money and CL money of TV rights was signed for these clubs. Imagine the number of lawsuits from the broadcasters (let alone the clubs being banned actually) . Let's say, it just won't happen.

Now having a place, that's a different discussion altogether. Looks like you are the one who is assuming here. I would rather wait for more details on how this is planned actually.
Let's not overreact.
 
The idea of a european super league has been around for ever. It's a power play I think, or I hope.

I'm not completely against a super league but it would have to have some form of qualification relegation/promotion the closed shop idea is just monopolising the market and an absolute no go,if it did happen than I think it would be the end for me, I wouldn't watch it.
 
No, they were offered the same deal than every other founders, as did Bayern, Schalke, Dortmund, Lyon and iirc Marseille. The fact that all french and german clubs haven't been mentioned today is strange.
Don't know where I read it, but the proposed payouts to the clubs were quite different from each other
 
Honestly. Every club that signed this, dock them 40 points. Do something that damages them. I don't even care at this point.

Relegate them. Us included.
 
Fact is, if plans benefited each individual countries football association, there'd be none of this talk of disgrace, farcical etc. The narrative would be feck uefa because, feck uefa.

None the club's, the boards or the associations are thinking of fans, it's their own respective interests and that's it.
 
The Superleague is a replacement for the Champions League set in a league format in which case the founding members are permanent members.

This is the rich clubs buying a permanent spot in the new European Superleague.

No fans want this. No leagues want this. This will end the European competitions as we know them. The ONLY people that want this are the respective club owners.
This is your assumption. Show me where exactly did they mention its a replacement for CL.
 
Don't get too emotionally invested in this guys. It's just posturing between greedy organisations wanting bigger pie. Grab some popcorn and enjoy the show, it won't happen.
 
No, they were offered the same deal than every other founders, as did Bayern, Schalke, Dortmund, Lyon and iirc Marseille. The fact that all french and german clubs haven't been mentioned today is strange.
I thought they "refused". There are probably some good reasons. France and Germany may not have the "biggest" clubs, though it's debatable for Bayern, but they are the strongest countries economically. I think it will be interesting.
 
Meh, I don't see this happening with just three Spanish teams, 6 English ones (Spurs and Arsenal, ha), and three Italian ones. That's not very "Super" at all.

Actually, Sky claim... "More than a dozen teams from England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain are in negotiations about becoming founder members of the competition."
 
Most of these clubs have large match going supports. Has there been much talk about organised collective action amongst support groups? To be honest I’d be disgusted if my club wanted to create a closed shop that goes against a founding meritocratic principle of the sport.
 
Don't get too emotionally invested in this guys. It's just posturing between greedy organisations wanting bigger pie. Grab some popcorn and enjoy the show, it won't happen.
Yup, I'm only awake for the drama. The UEFA statement was deliciously whiny.

Bring on the club statement already!
 
This is your assumption. Show me where exactly did they mention its a replacement for CL.
Where do you think they are fitting these games in? If a side made the final of both that's 42 games, that's unmanageable.
 
The organization chart

President: florentino perez (real madrid)
Vice President: joel glazer (man united)
Vice President: john henry (liverpool)
Vice President: stan kroenke (arsenal)
Vice President: andrea agnelli (juventus)

Clubs
Real Madrid Blancos
Barcelona Fury
Atletico Madrid Fire
Manchester Utd Devils
Manchester City Plastics
Liverpool WildCats
Chelsea Nationalists
Arsenal Invincibles
Tottenham Fighting Cocks
Internazionale Chargers
Milan Lightning
Juventus Buccaneers

Amended for you. Don't forget the Manchester franchises being relocated to London
 
No one is kicking anyone out. They can all scare the clubs like that but it just won't stand in the court. The PL money and CL money of TV rights was signed for these clubs. Imagine the number of lawsuits from the broadcasters (let alone the clubs being banned actually) . Let's say, it just won't happen.

Now having a place, that's a different discussion altogether. Looks like you are the one who is assuming here. I would rather wait for more details on how this is planned actually.
Let's not overreact.

UEFA sells the CL license to broadcasters. UEFA simply awards clubs a fixed pool for participation.

The FA owns and sells the TV rights and distributes it according to the contract.

The clubs don't own the TV deals.
 
9:30 "announcement" (flop)
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This only shows that the ownership structures in the domestic game have to change. Bundesliga sides are opposed to the Euro superleague plans because the German model means commercial investors cannot have more than a 49% stake in clubs, so fans hold a majority of their own voting rights.