It's still better than this ESL though, not even comparable.
European Super League
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Nope I am safely someone else.
I'm going to take my time to think who you are.
Of course Ducker would say nothing about City's owners and leaders. This is typical of the Telegraph's City correspondent.
Yeah that's not why we didn't get Sancho either, we just rightfully deemed him overpriced.
United could've easily turned down the Madrid offer, and did just that the previous Summer.
Again, can you explain how is this a slap in the face ? What exactly is lost here by having an additional tournament?
How did PSG impact then ? They refused to be part of the ESL and yes it's treason as per the Barca fans comment I'm reading on various sites
I don’t think I’d give a feck to be honest football has already lost it’s soul and I haven’t felt the same attachment to it for a while all about money, players earning ridiculous wages and the oil clubs have ruined it with outrageous transfers.
It’s like anything new it’ll be met with objections but ultimately what’s really the difference to a cash rich premier league or champions league?
It would be better if they had a relegation and promotion aspect to it but the premier league would never agree to that so I guess this way is the only way possible for it to happen.
Though I don’t think it will go through it all seems a bit rushed and out of the blue.
It’s like anything new it’ll be met with objections but ultimately what’s really the difference to a cash rich premier league or champions league?
It would be better if they had a relegation and promotion aspect to it but the premier league would never agree to that so I guess this way is the only way possible for it to happen.
Though I don’t think it will go through it all seems a bit rushed and out of the blue.
Yes, clubs moved around the map like pieces on a board. Ed Woodward invented this.
Right, so the government stands to lose some money. We know that for certain at least.
When all the big sides feck off to their own sandbox, and the CL basically becomes another EL.
Whole lotta disdain for small leagues/clubs here. I'll leave you to your righteous indignation over football teams daring to compete.
Well said, and I agree with this sentiment.
I don't like this new idea, but I can't stand Sky, FA, UEFA and FIFA trying to act morally superior.
They let this happen, these are the same cnuts that allowed these parasites in the game in the first place.
From my POV, if they could find a way of making it work with relegation/promotion from the domestic leagues then I’m all in favour.
Maybe a playoff system between the lowest finishing super league clubs, and the winners of the top domestic leagues for their nation that year. Put that in and I’m broadly in favour of it - as a replacement for the top domestic leagues and CL, all rolled into one competition.
Maybe a playoff system between the lowest finishing super league clubs, and the winners of the top domestic leagues for their nation that year. Put that in and I’m broadly in favour of it - as a replacement for the top domestic leagues and CL, all rolled into one competition.
Would not surprise me if these games are played abroad.
There has to be a mechanism at our club to have execs fired when they have made such abominable decisions. A vote of no confidence is required. Because they are destroying the ethos of our.club.
It completely destroys the validity of the champions League that's why and creates a shit tournament that nobody wants.
I'm not blaming Qatar or UAE though. I'm solely blaming UEFA and the rest that allowed what you described to become a thing long before the oil clubs came in. Now they are reaping what they sowed a long time ago so I simply won't blame the original monsters they created for turning against them. This thread is full of 'UEFA and the PL are right and the clubs are awful for this'. My viewpoint is that UEFA and the likes of the PL deserve most of the blame for this happening. They created this monster, as you pointed out, and now they are pissed because they finally can't control it. I hate the idea of the Super League but feel no sympathy to the corrupt organistations who are crying foul now simply because it hurts their bottom line.
Again if it were Rangers and Dundalk and champions from smaller nations threatening this then UEFA wouldn't give a shit. That tells you all you need to know abut the current 'integrity' they are trying to keep intact.
Every big/rich football club will be part of the league soon enough.
Generation Z will sadly sign up to this without shame. I guess that's the future of football.
Generation Z will sadly sign up to this without shame. I guess that's the future of football.
Well, mate, surely you can understand that its not some fecking committee made of Ed Woodward, Juan Laporta, Perez, and good aul Silvio that should be making these decisions? I mean surely?
Its not a good post because he's literally completely missed the moral aspect to it and the fact that football is not just about 15 teams. The world I live in has people enjoy football at all levels both playing and supporting. Without the money trickling down every team closes down. No more grassroots football. Which is exactly what you see in America no grassroots sports.
Bolded part isn't quite right, not fully at at least. We could have competed with real financially during those days, if not for the massive debt repayment burdens. Once that eased, we've been far more competitive in the transfer market. Of course, most of that spending has been abysmal but that's a different issue
Everyone acknowledges that this is about greed and money, but think about how the ambition of these owners will have to be realised.
They all believe that they should get even more from the TV rights to their games and this SL is a way to achieve that.
They are courting Netflixs, Google and Amazon to sell exclusive TV rights for sums of money that even Sky will baulk at.
It's already known that some owners think those fans watching matches on TV are getting it too cheap and want something closer to parity with match day tickets and season ticket prices, per game.
Are you prepared to pay £20, £30 or £40 pay-per-view, or a TV season ticket for say £500 or £600?
How else will the media companies be able to pay for the rights to live matches?
They all believe that they should get even more from the TV rights to their games and this SL is a way to achieve that.
They are courting Netflixs, Google and Amazon to sell exclusive TV rights for sums of money that even Sky will baulk at.
It's already known that some owners think those fans watching matches on TV are getting it too cheap and want something closer to parity with match day tickets and season ticket prices, per game.
Are you prepared to pay £20, £30 or £40 pay-per-view, or a TV season ticket for say £500 or £600?
How else will the media companies be able to pay for the rights to live matches?
PSG and City have impacted all of football mate, the landscape has been utterly annihilated by them. Staying at the top is costly beyond imagination.
I wouldn’t be against it if they took VAR with them and then the existing leagues didn’t have the money for VAR, I’d probably just watch the existing leagues without actively following anybody then.
If Boris hates it, there must be something good about it.
People are always afraid of change. Let’s see what the actual plans are before calling it the end of football. Anyway, I would be extremely sceptical of anything Sky or anyone else with vested interests paints this as.
100% this. I can't believe a fan of football could support this.
its driven by the owners, who gets fired? Even Fergie says he knew nothing about this discussion
That fat feck has no idea about football. I think he's a rugby fan, the fat fecking prop forward.
How exactly? These 15 teams would play all 3 - domestic leagues, CL and ESLs. If they don't qualify for CL, they will just play ESL.
It's just an additional revenue which they want to explore. It has nothing to do with existing domestic leagues or CLs
I see what you're saying but I don't understand the link with this current situation.Not being a cnut tbh, just trying to understand is all
I don't think a Super League would be an "additional tournament". There is a strong possibility that teams playing in the Super League will be punished by being barred from all domestic competitions and players barred from internationals.
They will have their answer
Can we just hold up for just 1 minute?
The UEFA reform of the UCL is awfully similar to the what the ESL are proposing hmmmm:
And what about UEFA’s reformed Champions League?
UEFA wants a new format for the Champions League from 2024, with one 36-team league replacing the current group stage, where every team plays 10 matches.
This is called the ‘Swiss model’.
Under the proposed format, by the time winner has lifted the European Cup, the competition will have produced 100 new games, and the finalists will have played at least 17 matches, four more than under the current system.
Accommodating four additional games in the autumn will be a challenge for most national leagues, however, including in England, where the Carabao Cup would be under threat.
Three of the four extra Champions League places would meanwhile go to clubs based on past performance in Europe, using the UEFA coefficient ranking system.
https://theathletic.com/news/european-super-league-premier-league/i5ilPK1rFttI
The UEFA reform of the UCL is awfully similar to the what the ESL are proposing hmmmm:
And what about UEFA’s reformed Champions League?
UEFA wants a new format for the Champions League from 2024, with one 36-team league replacing the current group stage, where every team plays 10 matches.
This is called the ‘Swiss model’.
Under the proposed format, by the time winner has lifted the European Cup, the competition will have produced 100 new games, and the finalists will have played at least 17 matches, four more than under the current system.
Accommodating four additional games in the autumn will be a challenge for most national leagues, however, including in England, where the Carabao Cup would be under threat.
Three of the four extra Champions League places would meanwhile go to clubs based on past performance in Europe, using the UEFA coefficient ranking system.
https://theathletic.com/news/european-super-league-premier-league/i5ilPK1rFttI
How long before the announcement?
Yep, as far as I can see it will kill the CL. Its current standing is based on the fact that the best clubs and best players compete in it. Once those clubs and players leave to a rival tournament, the CL slowly (or maybe not that slowly) dies. Because the money will follow those big clubs.
Correct. They must be loving the moral championship they're getting awarded tonight
They have college sports. Where people from all backgrounds and level of society get a chance to get an education and have a chance to play at the elite national level. So be quiet if you aren’t going to bring anything productive to a debate.
Its too much of a time investment for them to do both competitions. Essentially initially you will just have your b team do domestic commitments then the a team do the superleague