European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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So which is true

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-city-play-in-european-super-league-v9582d6sm

British envoy warned UAE not to let Manchester City play in European Super League


Or these "journalist" stories

Shiekh the saviour

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...h-Mansour-just-unlikely-saviour-football.html

Roman the lover of English legacy





Edit : Also funny how you can warn UAE about Mancity while their fans maintain its private investment.

Matt Law is up Romans arse. Allegedly paid by him/club
 
Yes, you are most likely correct I would think. Live broadcast models are changing across the industry as well.


It was something like 10-12% less than the older age group. So, relatively significant.

But aren’t they 10-12% smaller not just in viewership size but population size? There’s just fewer gen z than millennials
 
You'd have Napoli, Bayern, Roma, Sevilla, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, Monaco, Porto, PSG, Benfica, Ajax in the mix.

I reckon you could make some palatable quarter finals out of that lot.

Ban the 12 for a year - it's only a year and they truly deserve it.
99.99% of the people (Players, coach, staff and fans) at every ESL club had no idea about the ESL and have had no interest in ESL......a ban would be 100% fine if they would have voted for the ESL too.

But there were just 20-30 people from all 12 ESL clubs with this stupid idea.

A ban is not the solution......maybe -50 points for the club-coefficient-ranking.

But a quarter-final Leipzig vs Sevilla + Ajax vs Porto + Dortmund vs Paris + Bayern vs Roma would be not acceptable for the TV stations.....the TV stations are paying so much money therefore a ban for the 12 clubs will 100% not happen.....the UEFA cares about feckin money and not was is fair.
 
Likely Glazers. We need to turf them out

I think he is talking about City. Look at the coverage, City are getting little bad press. Infact "Shiekh saved English football" articles are getting written.
 
Perez is actually an idiot. He keeps complaining about the UCL format not working and that they all keep losing money. Since when did UEFA decide how much they spend on players and transfer fees and whatever else?

It's basically as if you buy a house outside your price range, get in financial trouble, and then blame your boss for not getting paid enough and being at fault for you choosing to spend too much in the first place. Guy is a fecking idiot.
 
Holy shit the guy actually said that the top teams in La Liga lose money and the rest win money. Maybe you wouldn't always qualify for the CL or dominate if you spent what you can actually afford to spend :lol: What the feck
 


I wonder if Neville and Linekar will give this the same energy.

This is absolutely insane. They guaranteed that two of the biggest clubs always get a free pass. Clubs who are decently well in the coefficient no longer need to fear being left out of the CL at the end of their domestic seasons... unless there's a shitload of them in the same situation, which never happens.

So clubs at the top level just need to qualify for Europa League, unless something extraordinary happens.

This, along with the other changes, makes the conspirationist in you wonder if this was all a concerted effort to make these changes more palatable. If there are no punishments it makes it even more likely.

I wanted the SL to happen because I progressively st all interest in football. I haven't seen a full game in 4 years. I wasn't expecting it to revive it, i was more like a "well, it's screwed for me, let's at least watch it burn"...
 
21st April Update: Do not abuse those for sharing different opinions to yourself. The poll not being anonymous does not give anyone an excuse to shame and belittle those who wanted it to happen.
I really want to know which one of you wrote that. It's amazing.
 
Lot of discussions on punishment for the 6. Has a transfer ban been mentioned? :nervous:
 


Let's see what these sanctions will be. Given that there wasn't anything that materialised at the end of the day, I'm not expecting much more than some fines.


Yeah like that time they came down hard on PSG and City :rolleyes:

Also sanctions for what exactly? What rules were broken by announcing and then scrapping a competition 48 hours later?

For all Perez's cocaine fueled nonsense the other night he wasn't wrong about UEFA being a corrupt monopoly that prioritizes it's own interests.
 
FP has a point, UEFA needs to get their shit together. What about FPP? What about this money they offered to english teams? From nothing, they have now 4 more billions. I mean, SL was not the right path, but many things need to change inside UEFA.

It's not a big deal if a bunch of people who are from 16 to 24 years old were in the protest outside the Chelsea game. It's a reality the young aren't seeing same football as they did before.

New UCL isn't better than the actual one.
 
So which is true

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-city-play-in-european-super-league-v9582d6sm

British envoy warned UAE not to let Manchester City play in European Super League


Or these "journalist" stories

Shiekh the saviour

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...h-Mansour-just-unlikely-saviour-football.html

Roman the lover of English legacy





Edit : Also funny how you can warn UAE about Mancity while their fans maintain its private investment.


Yeah City are simply owned by a private individual, who just happens to be a multi billionaire, deputy prime minister and a prince of the royal family of the UAE. But City definitely aren't state funded. Wink, Wink,
 
I think he is talking about City. Look at the coverage, City are getting little bad press. Infact "Shiekh saved English football" articles are getting written.

Most English football journalists are in City's back pocket, as you'd expect with a sport washing project on that scale.
 
I wonder what the penalty fee is for leaving the SL.

It's doubtless less than whatever UEFA offered the English clubs to leave the SL anyway. Not something to worry about.

I doubt it's enforceable or if it is that they'd even push for it. After all Perez will try floating this idea to the same clubs in one form or another in a few years.
 
Nasser Al-Khelaifi, the PSG owner, has replaced Agnelli as chairman of the ECA in UEFA. I'm not sure that's healthy at all. Al-Khelaifi is coming out of all of this looking like a saint, and that's not going to be healthy moving forward. Too much power and influence for PSG to bend FFP rules, maybe influence in selecting which refs will take charge of PSG games etc
 
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Nasser Al-Khelaifi, the PSG owner, has been replaced Agnelli as chairman of the ECA in UEFA. I'm not sure that's healthy at all. Al-Khelaifi is coming out of all of this looking like a saint, and that's not going to be healthy moving forward. Too much power and influence for PSG to bend FFP rules, maybe influence in selecting which refs will take charge of PSG games etc

FFP is done, City and PSG didn't respect before and from what I hear UEFA are talking about 'relaxing' it. Which is probably a euphemism for abandoning it as they're seemingly powerless to actually enforce it anyway.
 
No idea how representative it actually is. But I'm getting the impression that a large part of spanish football supporters didn't mind this? Maybe it's just random teens on forums but specifically supporters of Real Madrid and Juventus more than any, seem to have swallowed all of this up. Barcelona too, to an extent but not as bad. Real Madrid supporters (and Perez himself) seem to think they have this god given right to just have any player they want to have and should always win every trophy and be the richest club. So they complain when they don't have enough money to do these things. It's fecked up. Beyond fecked up. They're such a deluded bunch. I appreciate it's not all of them, and I hope it's not even the majority, but it's definitely a much larger group than what exists anywhere else in football. Not sure what the atmosphere was with Atletico/Milan/Inter supporters, but definitely the impression I got from Madrid/Juve for sure, and Barca to an extent.
 
No idea how representative it actually is. But I'm getting the impression that a large part of spanish football supporters didn't mind this? Maybe it's just random teens on forums but specifically supporters of Real Madrid and Juventus more than any, seem to have swallowed all of this up. Barcelona too, to an extent but not as bad. Real Madrid supporters (and Perez himself) seem to think they have this god given right to just have any player they want to have and should always win every trophy and be the richest club. So they complain when they don't have enough money to do these things. It's fecked up. Beyond fecked up. They're such a deluded bunch. I appreciate it's not all of them, and I hope it's not even the majority, but it's definitely a much larger group than what exists anywhere else in football. Not sure what the atmosphere was with Atletico/Milan/Inter supporters, but definitely the impression I got from Madrid/Juve for sure, and Barca to an extent.

Juve are an odd one as they have by far the biggest outside supporter base of any Italian club, and a fair few of them have been vocally defensive on social media... for Milan’s part, their Ultras have come out with a very strong statement against it...



...Madrid are just Madrid
 
This is absolutely insane. They guaranteed that two of the biggest clubs always get a free pass. Clubs who are decently well in the coefficient no longer need to fear being left out of the CL at the end of their domestic seasons... unless there's a shitload of them in the same situation, which never happens.

So clubs at the top level just need to qualify for Europa League, unless something extraordinary happens.

This, along with the other changes, makes the conspirationist in you wonder if this was all a concerted effort to make these changes more palatable. If there are no punishments it makes it even more likely.

I wanted the SL to happen because I progressively st all interest in football. I haven't seen a full game in 4 years. I wasn't expecting it to revive it, i was more like a "well, it's screwed for me, let's at least watch it burn"...

Hold on. It’s actually not the worst idea because it forces teams to take Europa serious.
 
You'd have Napoli, Bayern, Roma, Sevilla, Dortmund, RB Leipzig, Monaco, Porto, PSG, Benfica, Ajax in the mix.

I reckon you could make some palatable quarter finals out of that lot.

Ban the 12 for a year - it's only a year and they truly deserve it.
I think the best punishment should be resetting all their UEFA club coefficient for these 12 club to zero so they end up in lower pot for the next few years in any UEFA competitions.

This will also ensure plenty of big matches starting from the group phase. These 12 club owners wanted consistent big match, give them just that by removing their coefficient so they no longer be able to avoid other big teams during group phase.
 
No idea how representative it actually is. But I'm getting the impression that a large part of spanish football supporters didn't mind this? Maybe it's just random teens on forums but specifically supporters of Real Madrid and Juventus more than any, seem to have swallowed all of this up. Barcelona too, to an extent but not as bad. Real Madrid supporters (and Perez himself) seem to think they have this god given right to just have any player they want to have and should always win every trophy and be the richest club. So they complain when they don't have enough money to do these things. It's fecked up. Beyond fecked up. They're such a deluded bunch. I appreciate it's not all of them, and I hope it's not even the majority, but it's definitely a much larger group than what exists anywhere else in football. Not sure what the atmosphere was with Atletico/Milan/Inter supporters, but definitely the impression I got from Madrid/Juve for sure, and Barca to an extent.

Every Madrid fan that I have on my social media has been unanimously in favor of this. And I don’t mean kids, I mean adults aged 28-40. It’s weird. They really do believe that they’re above football.