European Super League

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It wasnt missed, this has been reported on for a few years. Was very loud last year too, everyone just denied it
But every club having signed up to it is huge news. It was always described as a threat but they went out and did it and not a peep.
I do wonder if a few journos were enticed to keep quiet, hence the soft coverage of Chelsea and City. Lets see if they suddenly break some big transfer news over the summer.
 
Stretford Paddock have an interesting view, what happens to our youth teams?

Without access to the various competitions, how does the academy bring through new talent?
 
I'm not entirely sure on the following, but you'd assume there won't be grounds to sue if the clubs involved are legally obligated to pull out due to government legislation.

Right?
That could lead to the club to be moved offshore as it would be cheaper than being sued.
 
Stretford Paddock have an interesting view, what happens to our youth teams?

Without access to the various competitions, how does the academy bring through new talent?
We arent being kicked out of domestic football.
 
No it won't but this foul cry by UEFA or PL is just a skint attempt because they are losing their money and not exactly because of their love towards the game.

If there is one thing that could and should come out of this, it is increased scrunity of Uefa and Fifa.

Ultimately this may be the thing that increases regulations across the sport. If it doesn't go ahead.
 
Sam Lee who is as reliable as it gets for city stated yesterday that these agreements are not legally binding.
Sam Lee is no longer reliable for City. Hierarchy at City were upset due to one of his article and now doesn't get any exclusive scoop from the club.
 
I think the 50+1 rule is a good idea but there are many potential negatives with it, the biggest drawback of the 50+1 rule is that it limits the financial capacity of the clubs. Without being able to captain the ship, external investors would not like to channel heavy funds into a team and current investors might decide to leave.
This will mean the major sources of PL club finances will be limited to the revenue generated through operational activities like match tickets, shirt sales, et al.
This is why Bayern is so dominant financially in the Bundesliga.
So I can see the big 6 doing 5 but the likes of Evertin, Leeds, West Ham may struggle to get potential investors.

Yeah because external billionaires/investors with no ties or connections to English clubs or English football have been great for the English game, culminating in the debacle currently playing out with the SL proposal.
 
What's boiling my piss is the clubs not willing to talk about it. The complete and utter silence.

6 of these clubs have thrown the game into massive turmoil, and all they can do is sit quietly behind their shit statements released on their websites.

No communications with their own players or fans. It's as if they think they they lay low for awhile people will forget about it and they'll get their way.

So out of touch and disconnected with the football community it's laughable.
 
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Competitive sport IS business and has been for decades - the two can't be separated.
This has been the way the sport has been going since TV Rights were introduced, and shirt sponsors, and state-backed owners - this particular action may have escalated the decline into market capitalisation quicker than previous ones, but this was always the outcome.

If they were concerned about the PL losing jobs they would've done more during the pandemic this time last year, they're not.
Fair enough yes you’re right, I’m too romantic toward the sport itself and honestly, even if I could see a super league or such happening in the future I didn’t expect it to be a closed off group who still wanted to feck up their national leagues by still being part of it.

UEFA reforms, Champions league reform, a new competition aligned with UEFA, any of that but not a private made up league separate to current football structures, that’s a joke.
 
Isn't this awful news? That means there's not even that much incentive to even bother bloody winning the damn super league! Even less chance of investment in the team, because why should they? Whats there really to gain? The Glazers have wanted success for money, if they don't need success for money, why would they bother improving the team? They wouldn't.
It’s a glorified friendly league separate to UEFA and FIFA just to provide a steady stream of income to already filthy rich men for the next twenty years. Pathetic how anyone can even begin to want it
 
Klopp and Guardiola have both spoken against it but we need more. Are we expecting too much from them to threaten to walk? I would fully support the Man Utd squad and management threatening to walk.
Yes probably a bit too much , but they’ve did the right thing and that in of itself presents the question — how can these owners, go into this new proposed competition, that their own players and coaches are not in support of?

I also expect Ole to complete swerve this as I don’t think it would be very good for the longevity of his reign here. By all accounts, we’re the primary drivers behind this new league.

Klopp and Pep can voice their discontent because it would be suicidal for the board to sack them due to their recent success. Ole doesn’t have that type of credit in the bank with Glazers IMO.
 
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Fair enough yes you’re right, I’m too romantic toward the sport itself and honestly, even if I could see a super league or such happening in the future I didn’t expect it to be a closed off group who still wanted to feck up their national leagues by still being part of it.

UEFA reforms, Champions league reform, a new competition aligned with UEFA, any of that but not a private made up league separate to current football structures, that’s a joke.

Yes it shouldn't be a closed off group with no outline as to entry requirements or consequences for failure, that much I couldn't agree with more.
I don't really care about UEFA alignment - they've proven themselves to be corrupt to feck too.
 
A meeting with a collective IQ of about 50.

So what, even if half of them couldn't change a light bulb (I think you actually need to have some social skills and wit to become captain, so I'd disagree with you), they do have some say within their teams. If all captains agree that they will talk to the rest of their teams about speaking up against it, then there's that pressure on the owners that is needed.
The team captains are in a much better role perhaps than the coaches, because they're actually active players that can act as role models for the other teammates to follow here.
 
My mistake then.
I took that post that they would close the gap and catch up to make top four because the SL teams would be taking it easy as a joke. Surely no one could say that with a straight face :)
 
I don’t believe Nasser for a second. They just have a very lucrative World Cup to protect.

World Cups aren't lucrative for the host, they are a money pit. On the other end, QTAs actual investment on hospitality infrastructure would be perfectly advertised during a World Cup which is what Qatar care about.
 
I don't see why bank account difference should matter. Players are normal people who are more talented than us and have earned the money. Why should they do something normal people would not do ?

With great power comes great responsibility, when a person has to work to get by they simply can't lose their jobs, and yet you still see poor people stand up for what is right against corporations and governments, these players have huge influence and the safety net to do what is right with the only fallout being their weekly wage may be 150k a week instead of 200k, Colin Kapernick did it.
 
  • Super League clubs have committed to using only 55 per cent of their revenues on “sport spending”, such as player salaries, transfer and agent fees, according to people familiar with the term

This was so obvious. A lot of people have been calling this for the past couple of days.

Massively increased money in football, but a gentleman's agreement amongst the owners not to inflate transfer fees/wages and keep the money in house - so clubs like Villa, for example, don't benefit from any increased 'trickle down' money when selling a star like Grealish.

Add this on top of the bullshit where you get a fiver a and a pack of Space Raiders for actually winning the competition and it's clear that there's (deliberately) no real incentive to actively improve squads in major ways or even to win the 'competition'.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see formal wage caps/spending caps or even a trade system implemented within 5 years to keep an even bigger percentage of the profits in the pockets of billionaires.
 
This is ridiculous because this entire scenario is the Tory Party philosophy, now suddenly they want to restrict the market from doing what they actively encourage in other industries.
Remember the original Tory party was the party of the Corn Laws, a law designed to fix the price of grain. The conservative party also took the UK into the EU's predecessor the EEC which is a high tariff border closed market system. They will have no problems coming up with any kind of law which restricts the free market as long as it keeps them in power.