And if UEFA wait for a month, everyone will forget and adjust to the new reality.
European Super League
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And if UEFA wait for a month, everyone will forget and adjust to the new reality.
Someone better ask him about his intentions to help push through the Newcastle Saudi takeover.
Yeah, for sure losing in American Sports is sometimes even better than winning. Look at all those Jets fans who were crying when they won a game as it handed Lawrence to Jacksonville.
They arent dropping out. Its a weird PR move that fans are latching on to as if there are levels to this cuntishness. If Bayern and PSG could say no, they could have as well.
If Boris forces the Glazers out I’m voting Tory. Actually even saying that in jest makes me feel ill...
No, you claimed that they could close the gap and then claimed that it was a similar situation than today, both of these statements are blatantly wrong. Finally you tried to muddy the water by asking a question about a point that I haven't made or defended.
I voted neutral, wait to see more details. I agree tbh. There’s a lot with the proposal I don’t mind. But obviously a few things that most aren’t happy with.
Sam Lee who is as reliable as it gets for city stated yesterday that these agreements are not legally binding.
Oh they'll be in there somewhere, you can bet on it.
Where there's filth and corruption, you'll find a Tory soon enough.
Why would he do that when he wants a Saudi takeover at Newcastle.
Oi!
No, Arsenal was just a reference. Point is, if you are not state owned you are not guaranteed money at all. Means , the clubs who is responsible for.making the sport so popular thinks they deserve more because people are watching for them. For.e.g Real and Barca think they have more viewers and they should be compensated accordingly else they could end up like Arsenal tomorrow. They are sowing it but they fear the benefits will be reaped by someone else.
Well obviously someone is lying then.
Klopp and Guardiola have both spoken against it but we need more. Are we expecting too much from them to threaten to walk? I would fully support the Man Utd squad and management threatening to walk.
City embarrassed by Pep
Competitive sport IS business and has been for decades - the two can't be separated.
This has been the way the sport has been going since TV Rights were introduced, and shirt sponsors, and state-backed owners - this particular action may have escalated the decline into market capitalisation quicker than previous ones, but this was always the outcome.
If they were concerned about the PL losing jobs they would've done more during the pandemic this time last year, they're not.
No surprise, Chelsea did the same. Think the PO intervened and said no more SL questions.
If the ESL doesn’t eventuate, are we still liable to face Fifa/UEFA imposed sanctions for signalling an intent to leave in the first place?
Isn't this awful news? That means there's not even that much incentive to even bother bloody winning the damn super league! Even less chance of investment in the team, because why should they? Whats there really to gain? The Glazers have wanted success for money, if they don't need success for money, why would they bother improving the team? They wouldn't.
I wonder if UEFA would refuse to present the trophy at the CL final if this goes ahead, given all 4 teams are on the list.
But Perez is literally the leader of this thing.
Isnt he a bit more reliable that Sam Lee? Where was Sam etc before Sunday anyway? How the feck did everybody miss this?
We cant even scout Sancho without getting caught yet here we are, creating a new European league on the sly
I never said they could close the gap. If you can't relate the question I asked and the discussion that was relevant, you are either dodging or you haven't been following the discussions. Feel free to go back and check the posts related to the discussions.
Realistically, there's no stopping the ESL. The best we can hope for is a softening of the initial ESL charter. In that regard, I'll support the protests. But I think everyone needs to be aware there's no 'winning' here. There's only 'losing less badly'.
That was last week. Last week’s Boris is very different to this week’s Boris.
Not PSG.
I'll be beyond shocked if Ole speaks out about it to be honest, I hope I'm wrong though.
It wasnt missed, this has been reported on for a few years. Was very loud last year too, everyone just denied it
If this stops any state funded clubs to invest unlimited money , then I am all for it. Let's see if PL has the balls to do it.
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Precisely this.
I don't actively hate the idea in principle - I hate the notion that there's no consequences to the "founding teams".
No no. There is a light at the end of this particular tunnel, if we manage to get there, which would result in revamping the ownership structure. That's obviously the logical way to go, instead of navigating capitalist problems with more extreme capitalist solutions.
I agree he was pretty arrogant too suggesting he knows that it can’t be stopped etc.
- The competition winner would receive just 1.5 times more than the bottom side. By comparison, that ratio in Spain’s La Liga is closer to 3.5 times
It also makes it less appealing to the money men to actually win it or compete. Why bother signing new players if prize money is practically irrelevant
- The 15 “founding clubs” of the Super League would share 32.5 per cent of these commercial revenues
This is ridiculously big, as you say.
- A further 32.5 per cent would be distributed between all 20 participating teams, including the five sides invited to play in the competition each year
The fact the 'founding clubs' get ANOTHER share of 32.5 is disgusting.
- The final 15 per cent would be shared based on broadcast audience size
I don't have that much of a problem with this as a standalone rule, but you're right, do the 'bigger clubs' really need more on top of what they're getting. This could be used much better
- Super League clubs have committed to using only 55 per cent of their revenues on “sport spending”, such as player salaries, transfer and agent fees, according to people familiar with the terms
Agree. But like you say, it's very important to see where the rest goes. I suspect we already know.
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I don’t believe Nasser for a second. They just have a very lucrative World Cup to protect.
He'll say the same as Klopp and Pep. "I don't know all the details, I was not involved but I really dont like the idea of a closed shop".
There's not much else he can say at the moment.
In all of this, despite my own grave concerns and vehement opposition to the ESL, I will not be lectured by UEFA and FIFA about 'preservation of the game for the ordinary person'.
Given their scandalous and corrupt handling of these organisations, for them to take the moral high ground on this matter is beyond a joke! It has more than a whiff of self-preservation or rather the continuation of inflated Bank balances. So a message to Ceferin, Infantino et al...sort your own house at before chucking stones!
Given their scandalous and corrupt handling of these organisations, for them to take the moral high ground on this matter is beyond a joke! It has more than a whiff of self-preservation or rather the continuation of inflated Bank balances. So a message to Ceferin, Infantino et al...sort your own house at before chucking stones!