Yes, finally. Well done, Rashford and his PR team.
European Super League
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Yes, finally. Well done, Rashford and his PR team.
Possibly.
They might.
I'm confident any action they decide to take will not be made with the interests of Sky, the PL bigwigs, the FA or any other off-field organization associated with the PL at heart.
"The 14 clubs at the meeting unanimously and vigorously rejected the plans for the competition"
Ok, and what...?
I mean, we knew they would reject the plans. But what's going to be done about it? I thought that's what we were going to hear about today from this meeting.
Ok, and what...?
I mean, we knew they would reject the plans. But what's going to be done about it? I thought that's what we were going to hear about today from this meeting.
I suppose so but I wouldn't be surprised if they have different plans with the LFP and the Bundesliga. I wouldn't rule it out.
One way or another, there is no good way either side comes out of this. If the ESL clubs stop it, it will only be because UEFA/FA and co backed down to whatever demands those clubs wanted but if UEFA/FA and co kick them out then they have lost their cash cows. Their only hope is that governments etc. somehow stop it but can't see how without a massive legal fight
Starting to look a lot like we'll be the last ones standing from England in this, and while kicking 6 teams out of the PL might not be on the table kicking 1 out may well be
A frightening prospect for sure, but I'm all for it if it finally rids us of the Glazers.
I’ll vote for Bozza too in that case.
Hope they make a audacious statement, I wouldn't be against threatening to relegate the top 6 to the lower leagues to make a strong point.
PSG will join just as soon as the 2022 World Cup is over and they're no longer bound to FIFA by the most corrupt World Cup in history.
But there'd probably be more prize money for the results in the knock-out stages and I'm sorry but if any of the teams that will take part in this competition get relegated by normal means from their national leagues (not banned) in the next twenty years I will buy everyone a drink on this forum.
I honestly can't see a scenario in which the players are going through with the ESL. As much as they like making money, 90% of them truly love the game and they care a great deal what the fans think of them. This move has clearly been in the works for a long time but I think the Founding Clubs seriously underestimated the incredible and unanimous backlash from the fans.
Bit of a nothing statement there to be honest.
Even if the SL was the best idea in the world, the fact that players, managers and fans had no say or even acknowledged when making the decision is what ultimately everyone is rightly against. It's not a defence of UEFA really.
Probably still exploring what they can do legally.
More detail from Pep. Good stuff!
This is a legal minefield.
I wouldn't even threaten it, just do it. These 6 clubs all deserve it for the disruption caused to football over the last few days at the very least.
Good. One way this could be killed really quickly is for the players to strike/say they will not participate.
For sure it is unlikely to happen but that would be a big problem for the clubs if enough players did it.
The fact the ESL has been so transparent with everything tells me they just no nothing can stop them. They wouldn’t have been so brash or arrogant about it.
Ultimately nothing lasts forever. PL, CL, FA Cup etc are all private competitions in which private businesses participate in - they don't have to remain the same forever, and are subject to change or dissolution at any time - I think every fan needs to be aware of that, if the last few days haven't made this point crystal clear.
There is no guarantee that our favourite competitions will remain.
I disagree again.
There are many men or women out there right now that will be fighting for the good of football.
Then there are boys and girls like you that are just trying to shittalk the very players and people that are looking to do something.
Juventus was in serie b less than 15 years ago.
- A further 32.5 per cent would be distributed between all 20 participating teams, including the five sides invited to play in the competition each year
This part bothers me immensely, and needs to be clarified as soon as possible. The founder clubs receive this on top of the existing 32.5% share that they get just for being them. This means that the five clubs that are lucky enough to be 'invited' each receive a 1/20th share of 32.5%, which will obviously be welcome but will pale into comparison with what the others clubs that they are competing with will be receiving every single year. Obviously any club invited to play will have to withdraw from certain competitions that they would usually participate in, only to go back to those the following season if that invite isn't extended.
Since any non-participating clubs are already going to take significant hits in revenue due to falling TV contracts and prize money, then over time we will simply be seeing the club equivalent of a Luxembourg being thrown to the wolves, which to me raises the likelihood that this will become a club world cup and these five 'invites' will be offered to clubs outside of Europe.
The only way it will be stopped is by collective action from players.
If the players, not individuals, but as a group, say no, its done.
Without players, all the owners have is an an acre and a half of grass with some seats around it.
If the players, not individuals, but as a group, say no, its done.
Without players, all the owners have is an an acre and a half of grass with some seats around it.
To be fair it’s still early. They’re probably exploring all potential legal actions they can take. There’s not going to be a solution overnight. This could drag on for months.
They are literally in hiding.
Yes but they were banished for corruption , not because they were a crap team who couldn't buy their way out of trouble which is why I included the proviso 'not banned'
45% income tax is why the Government won't fully block the move, they'll be raking it in with 45% tax.
That is the only problem imo. It is these shitty clubs as well as UEFA/FIFA being the "good" guys now. But I guess we take whatever we can!a team who literally spent 400m + on 2 players talks about Fairness. God - hypocrisy just suicides.
They were relegated as punishment. Something that can easily happen again.
I don't think this means every country gets to charge 45%, only that salaries will be normalized to 45% so that countries with lower taxes do not benefit when it comes to the salary cap.
Yeah agreed
They'll make some statement again about how much they condemn this whole thing, make some vague threats about financial penalites, this will drag on as these things tend to do, then will sort of get forgotten about while some more vague statements are made, and this whole thing will continue to inexorably march on.
How so? They were literally running their mouth on TV last night
Perez must believe the contracts are ironclad
The players and managers are employees, the fans are consumers - they're not entitled to know everything.