European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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JPRouve said:
World Cups aren't lucrative for the host, they are a money pit. On the other end, QTAs actual investment on hospitality infrastructure would be perfectly advertised during a World Cup which is what Qatar care about.
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It’s lucrative/very valuable for their sportswashing operation.
 
cyberman said:
But Perez is literally the leader of this thing.
Isnt he a bit more reliable that Sam Lee? Where was Sam etc before Sunday anyway? How the feck did everybody miss this?
We cant even scout Sancho without getting caught yet here we are, creating a new European league on the sly
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Perez has a reason to lie, he can't just say, oh if it gets too hot to handle some clubs can walk out, no hard feelings. Lee doesn't.
 
Lyricist said:
So what, even if half of them couldn't change a light bulb (I think you actually need to have some social skills and wit to become captain, so I'd disagree with you), they do have some say within their teams. If all captains agree that they will talk to the rest of their teams about speaking up against it, then there's that pressure on the owners that is needed.
The team captains are in a much better role perhaps than the coaches, because they're actually active players that can act as role models for the other teammates to follow here.
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Feel free to believe that.
 
So glad that Rashford and Marcus have spoken out. Fair play to Milner last night. Henderson getting captains together is great as well. Hopefully the players can group together to help stop this.
 
sewey89 said:
  • The competition winner would receive just 1.5 times more than the bottom side. By comparison, that ratio in Spain’s La Liga is closer to 3.5 times
This is good, and would make for a more competitive ESL.

It also makes it less appealing to the money men to actually win it or compete. Why bother signing new players if prize money is practically irrelevant

  • The 15 “founding clubs” of the Super League would share 32.5 per cent of these commercial revenues
This percentage needs to be smaller, imo.

This is ridiculously big, as you say.
  • A further 32.5 per cent would be distributed between all 20 participating teams, including the five sides invited to play in the competition each year
And this one needs to be bigger.

The fact the 'founding clubs' get ANOTHER share of 32.5 is disgusting.
  • The final 15 per cent would be shared based on broadcast audience size
I'd like to see an additional commitment to parachute payments/funding of national leagues in order to help grass roots football.

I don't have that much of a problem with this as a standalone rule, but you're right, do the 'bigger clubs' really need more on top of what they're getting. This could be used much better
  • Super League clubs have committed to using only 55 per cent of their revenues on “sport spending”, such as player salaries, transfer and agent fees, according to people familiar with the terms
Good. But only if some of the remaining 45% is earmarked for improvement of local neighbourhoods and youth development. If it all goes to the owners, they can feck off.

Agree. But like you say, it's very important to see where the rest goes. I suspect we already know.

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The prize money ratio is the same in the PL the winners win 1.5 times the bottom club
 
SmallCaine said:
Perez has a reason to lie, he can't just say, oh if it gets too hot to handle some clubs can walk out, no hard feelings. Lee doesn't.
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He wouldn't answer it at all? Even the leaks have said its binding. It just seems like wishful thinking. Why bother having a contract in the first place if City can just say no? It would need to be water tight with the shitstorm they knew this would bring
 
Berbaclass said:
Because of the draft though no?
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Welly yeah, mainly because of the draft. But in ESL what incentive would most teams have to fight it out whole season, when you can't get relagated and only 1st place matters?
 
Starting to look a lot like we'll be the last ones standing from England in this, and while kicking 6 teams out of the PL might not be on the table kicking 1 out may well be :nervous:
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
I'm exactly the same mate.

I'm only 32 and it feels like I'm in a different world, people who only watch the last 15 minutes of matches, support individual players instead of teams etc.

It's depressing and disgraceful.
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Becoming more and more atomized as a society.
 
hanovercigars said:
Remember the original Tory party was the party of the Corn Laws, a law designed to fix the price of grain. The conservative party also took the UK into the EU's predecessor the EEC which is a high tariff border closed market system. They will have no problems coming up with any kind of law which restricts the free market as long as it keeps them in power.
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Very good point, lying is also a big part of their philosophy.
 
Bastian said:
Haven't seen anything on that, but there's an interesting Daniel Taylor piece where he talks about Fergie's complicity in the Glazer ownership. Taylor says:

"The Glazers are no longer just a Manchester United problem. They are now a problem for the whole of football."

That's the thing with poisonous scum..
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I assume he's said the same of City's owners?
 
Lyricist said:
I'll happily believe in the good of the players until I'm proven wrong, instead of coming in here with supposedly witty 1-liners, shitting on those players, that are actively trying to make a change.
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Ok, settle down sweetheart.
Did the nasty man not agree with you?
 
villain said:
Yes it shouldn't be a closed off group with no outline as to entry requirements or consequences for failure, that much I couldn't agree with more.
I don't really care about UEFA alignment - they've proven themselves to be corrupt to feck too.
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By UEFA alignment I mean some kind of structure along side Cl qualification or similar if it remained, can’t just have 6 teams stinking up a league with it having no meaning to them
 
Paul the Wolf said:
The prize money ratio is the same in the PL the winners win 1.5 times the bottom club
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The difference there would be that there is then additional prize money for qualifying for CL/EL wouldn't there. Or a huge drop in prize money if relegated to the Championship etc
 
Saphan said:
Welly yeah, mainly because of the draft. But in ESL what incentive would most teams have to fight it out whole season, when you can't get relagated and only 1st place matters?
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Because it isn't first place matters, they have to qualify for the knock out stages , so at least the top eight places matter
 
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