European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


  • Total voters
    1,921
  • Poll closed .
Aplogies if this has been discussed before, but would the members of Real and / or Barca be able to overthrow the decision of their management?
Probably but the thing is the Spanish clubs need the Super League more than the English clubs but more susceptible to fan protests. Florentino has been pushing for this for decades.
 


Serie A Assembly: "With this much extra money we can't possibly compete with Inter, Milan and Juventus", to which Agnelli replied with: "I see no change, we've been winning for 80 years".

Now I actually understand why Pirlo was hired. They wanted to spend the least amount of money possible before the confirmation of Super League. It wouldn't matter if they win or lose the Serie A, they are in the SL anyway.
 
They’re really scared now though and it shows. Feck them. They created this. Time they had a taste of their own medicine.
Yes let’s totally ruin the sport to teach sky a lesson. That’ll show everyone!
 
Yep it happens all the time. Oakland Raiders a year ago got moved to Los Vegas for example. Chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles even though Los Angeles already had the Rams (which were previously in St. Louis). These are big cities and they lost their teams. Its disgusting. Everything that can be done must be done to stop this. Everything.
Sickening my friend. I havent eaten properly in 2 days. This cannot go ahead it will destroy everything. People thinking we are over dramatizing, this is just the beginning. First the super league, then changing the club names, changing were they are based, games on in different continents, matches shortened into multiple quarters for additional adds. This is breaking my heart.
 
Yep it happens all the time. Oakland Raiders a year ago got moved to Los Vegas for example. Chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles even though Los Angeles already had the Rams (which were previously in St. Louis). These are big cities and they lost their teams. Its disgusting. Everything that can be done must be done to stop this. Everything.
And now they're called Las Vegas Raiders. Keep this shameless Americanization and all their name/stadium shenanigans out of football.
 


Serie A Assembly: "With this much extra money we can't possibly compete with Inter, Milan and Juventus", to which Agnelli replied with: "I see no change, we've been winning for 80 years".


Takes some doing to come out of this as the biggest cnut but Agnelli is putting in great work on that front.
 
all the utd players very quiet on twitter, none of them posted since the 18th. Ed probably told them not to
Absolute cowards.

I don't care if you've been told not to say anything.

The first team players are already millionaires and even if they got sacked, they'd be fine.

But sacking would just look worse for the Glazers, so what are you afraid of, Rashford, Pogba, Maguire?

True colours show at times like these. I know people go on about Rashford but principles are respected because they endure. Let's see if they come through this test.
 
The more I think about this the more it seems like who has a bigger contest. And more this mad mad Perez speaks more I'm convinced a middle ground will be found.
I mean the whole plan seems like something that has been done in a rush just for the sake of it. 12 clubs, 3 more invited, which ones, qualification for 5 more, which 5, from which leagues, how would qualification work and would that and that league even allow it. Don't get me started with the logo. What the hell is that? My 7 year old daughter would make a better one.

The best part is uefa has been chkpiong chopping and changing CL to accommodate the big clubs and it still isn't enough.

Yeah, it reeks of haste. Specially for something this massive, you cannot just present cardboard drawings for your plans. That makes me think they just threw this out to rattle UEFA who they probably believe have gone too far in their dealings (the latest revamp being an example).
 
Does anyone know what the global fan bases are saying, it's ok to say that the Manchester or Liverpool fans are demonstrating outside stadiums, but what's happening with supporters clubs in other parts of the world? I imagine some are probably excited by this, hoping some games could be played in their vicinity?

I get the feeling it's only the global supporters whom these clubs are interested in.
 
Fan loyalties aside, you had to feel for Klopp being the first one in front of the cameras after the announcement.

He must be absolutely fuming with the owners.

Same with Solskjaer on sunday.
 
No the owners and CEO's are, bet the board members, managers, players aren't. Get it right.

This is what the whole thing is driving home for me. I think as fans of this team in particular, we've become accustomed to compartmentalising it as the 'club' being the players, the manager, the stadium, the history. All of it is tarnished and endangered now because of the business psychos. I'm gutted for Ole and the players, and mortified in general.
 
My point (perhaps clumsily put) was that there are other clubs with a lot of history. Villa and Nottingham Forrest have won the European Cup (something Arsenal haven't done), for example. Everton have won league titles.

Are Arsenal, on current form (and over the last few years) more deserving that other PL clubs who have a history too?

Who cares????? It's not clumsily put just a really irrelevant and stupidly out of place attempt at point scoring tribalism, the exact type of tribalism that makes owners think with some foundation that they can and would get away with pulling these types of moves in the first place.
 
Absolute cowards.

I don't care if you've been told not to say anything.

The first team players are already millionaires and even if they got sacked, they'd be fine.

But sacking would just look worse for the Glazers, so what are you afraid of, Rashford, Pogba, Maguire?

True colours show at times like these. I know people go on about Rashford but principles are respected because they endure. Let's see if they come through this test.
Calm down. You are talking like its about apartheid or something. It is a business decision.
 

I'm sure the media will try and test their resolve but these clubs knew exactly what they signed up for, the second the announcement was made there was already no turning back. Everyone who's joined the Super League wants to be a part of it, their journalists will try and paint a pretty picture for their reasoning but there's 0 chance anyone pulls out, why would they?
 
So the games were not competitive because greedy clubs and greedy leagues hoarded wealth. And the solution is to hoard even more money and even more wealth?I suspect they will lose plenty of fans. Kicking a ball around with no consequences or rewards is not football.


Have they even considered how it will affect the dynamics of the game on the pitch ?

Why would players bust a gut when there is no downside, why would they play through the pain barrier and strain every sinew to achieve an outcome in a game that doesn’t matter. Why would fans be emotionally invested if they can just try again next year.

it will be the biggest mistake in the history of the sport. I won’t be watching it at all, not a single minute. It’s will be no more interesting than a pre season friendly
 
It was John Henry who said the first guy through the wall, will always get a bit bloody. They would have expected the backlash.

Here's a clip from Moneyball where he supposedly said it.

 
Fan loyalties aside, you had to feel for Klopp being the first one in front of the cameras after the announcement.

He must be absolutely fuming with the owners.
I think Ole was the first manager as the news broke during our Sunday game, he literally didn't know what to say.

The way the managers and players have been handled during this is a disgrace, completely done behind their backs.
 
Absolute cowards.

I don't care if you've been told not to say anything.

The first team players are already millionaires and even if they got sacked, they'd be fine.

But sacking would just look worse for the Glazers, so what are you afraid of, Rashford, Pogba, Maguire?

True colours show at times like these. I know people go on about Rashford but principles are respected because they endure. Let's see if they come through this test.
They are not freedom fighters. This notion that they should go against their employers publicly is just naive and stupid. No one here will do it. Not sure why it is expected of players and managers
 
They are not freedom fighters. This notion that they should go against their employers publicly is just naive and stupid. No one here will do it. Not sure why it is expected of players and managers

Why is it so difficult for our players when others have?

We're not selling or cancelling anyone's contract because they speak out. They might get a bollocking but so fecking what.
 
Why is it so difficult for our players when others have?

We're not selling or cancelling anyone's contract because they speak out. They might get a bollocking but so fecking what.

They can choose not to. As I told they are not revolutionaries. This expectations is unrealistic and unfair.
 
When your new ESL chair advocates for trickle down economics you know you fecked up and this whole thing isn't about saving football but about saving face.

We were eventually getting here. Uefa has introduced the ffp to ensure clubs adhere to some financial rules and even that became a mockery. There's just too much money in football and an excessive amount of idiots mismanaging this.

It's quite unfortunate; I don't mind a breakaway competition I think uefa has been a joke for 2 decades but the way this was set up is probably a joke. And the longer they try and defend it the worse it becomes.

Kudos to SKY. They loved a bit of oil money, Russian oligarch money and glaser money helped giving birth to this monstrosity and they're now advocating for the fans.

Football is dead. It was dead when we started handing out millions per week to a footballer. Its more about betting and the showmanship these days.
 
If you think so. However, I'm not going to disbelieve all of the journalists in the UK.
I’m not saying all of them are lying. You saw last night when Neville and Carragher were talking about everyone coming together to fight it and unity. None of the media want it and they all want to stop it so I wouldn’t immediately rush to believe what they come out with.
 
That process starred decades ago mate. I still support my team but I’ll never think of it as the same.
Not as drastic as this, mate. And it’s being wilfully ignorant to suggest this is even remotely similar to what’s happened in years past.