European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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Most people outside the UK support the 'Top 6' (I know not currently). The PL rights would probably be worth 10% of what they are now. And the Top 6 can have a breakaway top 6 league or invite the Glasgow teams and pick up probably 100% of the PL money that's currently on offer.
I don’t think many people care how many spin off leagues they try to create unless it’s competitive with meaning at the end of the season what’s the point in it?
 
So, a rich club that brings money in but finishes dead last gets offered a place but a team who out preforms them but brings in little revenue gets relegated?

It doesn't have to be black or white in the sense that I don't think that they will invite any team that brings little revenue in the first place but I definitely think that who gets offered a share will depend on who brings the most revenue through a combination of market pool and entertainment value. And the 5 invitees are auditioning for those shares.
 


The plans are a complete mess, just like this whole sorry launch. This reads like someone at United/Liverpool (presumed ring leaders and drivers of this league) trying desperately to keep the other clubs in line. If City/Chelsea go, the whole thing collapses very quickly in my opinion.
 
The worst part of this whole thing is that we are probably only 2nd to Madrid in being the driving force behind this, I'd much rather be one of the 14 teams left behind rebuilding the Premier league.

Have to hope for some contractual point that voids contracts etc meaning its not feasible to take off.
 
They just built a stadium on 100% loan debt that they're only making the interest payments on
This makes you wonder the real intentions of building this stadium, did they know the SP was coming and they were preparing for it, knowing the Billions to be made would wipe their debt?

Meanwhile Old Trafford Crumbles, I guess the Glaziers just want to pocket every last penny.
 
A cabal of mismanaged Spanish clubs on the brink of financial ruin and filthy rich foreign owners seeking to further line their own pockets.
 
England’s third most successful club don’t have more history than loads of other clubs?

My point (perhaps clumsily put) was that there are other clubs with a lot of history. Villa and Nottingham Forrest have won the European Cup (something Arsenal haven't done), for example. Everton have won league titles.

Are Arsenal, on current form (and over the last few years) more deserving that other PL clubs who have a history too?
 
The plans are a complete mess, just like this whole sorry launch. This reads like someone at United/Liverpool (presumed ring leaders and drivers of this league) trying desperately to keep the other clubs in line. If City/Chelsea go, the whole thing collapses very quickly in my opinion.

A name immediately springs to mind.
 
Most people outside the UK support the 'Top 6' (I know not currently). The PL rights would probably be worth 10% of what they are now. And the Top 6 can have a breakaway top 6 league or invite the Glasgow teams and pick up probably 100% of the PL money that's currently on offer.

I for one am ready to adopt a new English club
 
Most people outside the UK support the 'Top 6' (I know not currently). The PL rights would probably be worth 10% of what they are now. And the Top 6 can have a breakaway top 6 league or invite the Glasgow teams and pick up probably 100% of the PL money that's currently on offer.

Hard to say, it would obviously worth less, but never 10%. The rights are currently around £1.5bn per year... you'd probably be looking at half I think, as the EPL brand alone would still be a thing and a big deal.

Looking locally...

Sky pay £200m per year for Prem rights.

They pay roughly £120m per year for Championship rights.

So it certainly won't be 10% locally at least.
 


That's why Journalist like Matt Should not be allowed. They are basically mouthpiece of Club.
 
I'd love to see the Government find a way to ban the English clubs from joining and this circus was just Barcalona and Madrid playing Juve every season and a bunch of other games no one gives a shit about.
 
Having the so called top 20 clubs( whom ever they may be) doesn’t guarantee exciting matches. With no relegation or promotion it will just become like the MLB or NFL where if you’re bottom and shite so be it, there’ll just be an overhaul of staff and players and support for you to get major players the following season.
A draft in football for the ESL is the next step
Seems super boring to me. I actually really like the current CL format and don't really see much need for a change but I'm open to adjustments, I just can't believe there are posters on here happy with the ESL.
 
It's a weak and empty statement, at the same time praising the CL reform which points in the same direction as this SL bullshit.
Could it have been harder, condemning the proposal... yes.

Could he have said nothing at all... yes.

I'll take this as a good start, especially given it's clearly the biggest club in world football who are not part of the 12.

And yes, revised CL proposals may not be ideal but they're not a closed super league either so right now, if it's a choice between "so so" and "end of my sport as I know it and end of my association with United", I'll take the former.
 
They’re really scared now though and it shows. Feck them. They created this. Time they had a taste of their own medicine.
Dont try and act like your support of this garbage is because you want to see Sky get their just desserts. You only care about Ronaldo and Messi and watching highlight reels instead of actual football, its OK to admit that.
 
Most people outside the UK support the 'Top 6' (I know not currently). The PL rights would probably be worth 10% of what they are now. And the Top 6 can have a breakaway top 6 league or invite the Glasgow teams and pick up probably 100% of the PL money that's currently on offer.

Any evidence to back that up?
 
This makes you wonder the real intentions of building this stadium, did they know the SP was coming and they were preparing for it, knowing the Billions to be made would wipe their debt?

Meanwhile Old Trafford Crumbles, I guess the Glaziers just want to pocket every last penny.

Id say COVID has had more of an influence over all this, Levy had created a lot in the new stadium as a way to earn extra income that really so far hasn't been really used.
 


Serie A Assembly: "With this much extra money we can't possibly compete with Inter, Milan and Juventus", to which Agnelli replied with: "I see no change, we've been winning for 80 years".
 
all the utd players very quiet on twitter, none of them posted since the 18th. Ed probably told them not to

United are quite about this on their twitter. Last I checked neither us or City have posted anything to social media just our club websites.
 
Dont try and act like your support of this garbage is because you want to see Sky get their just desserts. You only care about Ronaldo and Messi and watching highlight reels instead of actual football, its OK to admit that.
I genuinely don’t really care about the outcome I decided today. The football I loved went about 20 years ago. This makes little difference to me.
 
The more I think about this the more it seems like who has a bigger contest. And more this mad mad Perez speaks more I'm convinced a middle ground will be found.
I mean the whole plan seems like something that has been done in a rush just for the sake of it. 12 clubs, 3 more invited, which ones, qualification for 5 more, which 5, from which leagues, how would qualification work and would that and that league even allow it. Don't get me started with the logo. What the hell is that? My 7 year old daughter would make a better one.

The best part is uefa has been chopping chopping and changing CL to accommodate the big clubs and it still isn't enough.
 
sure, i heard in the NFL they also moved some teams, just moved them to different states. You think we will still be based in Manchester in 10 years. Feck all this.
Yep it happens all the time. Oakland Raiders a year ago got moved to Los Vegas for example. Chargers moved from San Diego to Los Angeles even though Los Angeles already had the Rams (which were previously in St. Louis). These are big cities and they lost their teams. Its disgusting. Everything that can be done must be done to stop this. Everything.
 
Most of this post is what I’m hoping happens to these rich selfish fecks. Leave their national leagues for their tinpot competition and a few or most players leave SL teams to join PL and other league teams to play in a serious competition leaving these rich pricks out in the wilderness. Just so disappointed United are involved in it.

Indeed. Right now, if the club pushes on with this it may as well be an NFL franchise or an e-sports team. It's no longer the club I support, it's history is gone.

I'll just continue to watch my local club and the PL. How I feel at the moment, if the club folded in a few years I wouldn't care.
 
Id say COVID has had more of an influence over all this, Levy had created a lot in the new stadium as a way to earn extra income that really so far hasn't been really used.

The project pre-dates covid. Not only the G-14 was created in 2000 for that goal but even more recently football leaks revealed this plan in 2018.
 


Serie A Assembly: "With this much extra money we can't possibly compete with Inter, Milan and Juventus", to which Agnelli replied with: "I see no change, we've been winning for 80 years".

:lol:

The amount of arrogance is staggering