PL should leak an idea saying well promote 2 more teams from the championship over the next two seasons, plus lower leagues incl non league and level out the 86 remaining clubs plus 2 extra to 4 leagues of 21. Suggest they'll just move on.
European Super League
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So, a rich club that brings money in but finishes dead last gets offered a place but a team who out preforms them but brings in little revenue gets relegated?
You'd like to think so but as we saw with City and PSG that is not necessarily the case.
This is the worst part of it, the owners run the machinations and they don't do interviews while the players and managers are infront of a mic twice a week or more having to answer on behalf of the owners.
I know there’s a lot of Corden fans on here...
Being serous though, he’s absolutely spot on
Good stuff from Corden. America needed to hear that.
No matter what has gone before, this is the biggest change football has faced for decades or since ever. What’s the purpose or need of People nit picking at players and clubs speaking out now just because they haven’t agreed or done everything they would have wanted in the past.
I agree with your post, I disagree with taking swipes at players and clubs speaking out about this mess
Aka american owners that want to force more americanised rubbish onto the world
The debt is actually on the books of a company that owns 100% of the shares of the football club which in turn is owned by RA.
The debt isn’t just what he has injected into the football club it also includes money invested to buy the original shares from Bates alongside a couple of other investments
In many ways it’s no different to turning loans into equity although that said it was explained to me that should the holding company ever sell the football club the debt would be repaid from the proceeds which in turn would reduce the profit which in turn would reduce any tax liability
So he should shut up? Or speak against this now and have people saying wahhhh you never spoke out before? It’s never too late
England’s third most successful club don’t have more history than loads of other clubs?
This is my entire problem with the whole situation.
Perez talks about this concept as if it's saving the game? From who? Himself? For being completely unable to manage a club within it's means? For removing equality in his own league?
Then there's our lot, are we saving the game from owners who pile mass amounts of debt onto a club? Or those who run clubs as a second rate organisation, and cry poverty when the performances on the pitch aren't on the same level as they achieved under the greatest manager in football history? A manager who achieved his success in spite of these parasites.
I could do this for practically every club in this "league". But we can all see through it, we all know his has been set up to create a bottomless well of guaranteed cash. Cash to help circumvente the billions these clubs have pissed up the wall through their own incompetence.
Which begs the question, why in the feck are City in here? They are the only Club that is "sustainable" from this who's who of organisational incompetence. They should be the ones who break off, they have absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose.
I don't know if this was already discussed but according to the Twitter account @FutbolBible (I'm not allowed to post links yet) Super League games scheduled in the Middle East, Asia and North America
Tweet is ~11h old
The arrogance of these clubs that they even believe they should be allowed to continue in this or next seasons EL/CL is infuriating.
"We should be allowed to compete in your competition... until we start our competition, at which point nobody is allowed unless we say they are" .... Wankers.
I wonder about that too. Given how clandestine this whole thing was, and how extremely loose it seems to be (see Perez going full Trump) I question not only how well prepared this was in terms of PR, but also whether they have anything tangible. Doing huge research would likely raise a lot of awareness. Suppose they actually did research this extensively, and it didn't raise eyebrows, did that research take into account how horrific PR would impact the continuation of said process?
The only thing I'm relatively sure of is that they'd be willing to lawyer up like the Church of Scientology to win this in the courts. But so so much damage has been done.
I have a feeling that old men yelling at clouds in this instance is actually a huge and varied demographic.
Again, look at the people pushing this through. It screams incompetence. Most of these clubs have been run incompetently.
Now imagining the nervous execs as these guys.
Here's hoping the Super League goes as well as the separatist movement in the prequels.
Most people outside the UK support the 'Top 6' (I know not currently). The PL rights would probably be worth 10% of what they are now. And the Top 6 can have a breakaway top 6 league or invite the Glasgow teams and pick up probably 100% of the PL money that's currently on offer.
They just built a stadium on 100% loan debt that they're only making the interest payments on
Woke up and forgot this was a thing, thought it was all a bad dream. This is all so fecked up and ridiculous. Can't get over how disgusting it all is, and more than anything I'm disgusted (but not surprised) United are one of the ring leaders.
Okay - are you suggesting then, that rather than lose these "big six" the PL would let them stay and have the same six either dominate every year, because they're richer than anyone else, or (and I think this more likely) treat it like a cup competition and save their best players for ESL games?
Liverpool and United, are the biggest loss. Spurs and Arsenal are average sides with no more "history" than a lot of other English clubs but who happen to have shiny, London based stadiums. How many fans do they have globally? I suspect not many. Chelsea and City are Everton or Newcastle with a rich owner, nothing more.
The product will be diminished without these clubs but the alternative is arguably just as bad, if not worse. The popularity of the PL is because of its overall strength and competitiveness (over and above other Leagues around the world) and this takes that away.
People massively overplay this idea of "history". The type of fans who the PL makes it's money from worldwide don't care - that's why they're sitting Kuala Lumpur in Man City or Chelsea shirts which they might well swap for Everton, or Leicester, or Wolves if the game is marketed correctly. The real fans, who it does matter too are exactly the type of fans who will turn off the PL in their droves if these clubs are allowed to stay and devalue the competition.
Most of this post is what I’m hoping happens to these rich selfish fecks. Leave their national leagues for their tinpot competition and a few or most players leave SL teams to join PL and other league teams to play in a serious competition leaving these rich pricks out in the wilderness. Just so disappointed United are involved in it.
It's been dragging me down ever since the news broke. It's really depressing me.
Can see that many games being played abroad to generate more money they won't need the stadiums.
sure, i heard in the NFL they also moved some teams, just moved them to different states. You think we will still be based in Manchester in 10 years. Feck all this.
Competition was gone when they allowed 4 CL spots
Can see OT being sold off. The first thing they will do though is get naming rights. Get as much money in as possible.
Wouldn’t trust any information coming from Sky. They’re going to try and put pressure on because it’s massively in their interest.Hmmm, the batshit ramblings of Perez seem to have spooked some of them
Completely agree. Even if it's the owners fault I'll lose tons of respect for anyone in football who doesn't speak up against this league. Silence gives consent.
No the owners and CEO's are, bet the board members, managers, players aren't. Get it right.
Yeah so Sky talking bollocks to try and spook them
I think they could do that. There are enough well supported clubs in the Championship.
Fan loyalties aside, you had to feel for Klopp being the first one in front of the cameras after the announcement.
He must be absolutely fuming with the owners.
Sky have been talking bollocks for 20 years
Perez was literally sitting there rambling about anything that would drop into his head, regarding this ESL.Hmmm, the batshit ramblings of Perez seem to have spooked some of them