As I've said there are 1000 reasons why this shouldn't happen, but anyone using 'boring' as a reason is simply wrong. These would be the best players and clubs competing against each other every week. That never will be boring I'm sorry if people cant see that through the rightful outrage.
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The destroying of national leagues is just one issue I have with it, there’s many more where they haven’t cared one bit about match going fans that have made football what it is and are clearly going global tv rights route.
Teams will still want to win the prem yes, but if they’re also in the super league that will obviously take priority so players will be rested/youth played in the prem, and with the super league teams having no real objective to win the prem or finish high as it wouldn’t lead to qualification of anything anyway. So when these 6 finish in random places in the top ten, possibly relegation places the champions league and Europa league places will be taken up by a mish mash of positions not the top teams of the league. It’ll be a mess.
The destroying of national leagues is just one issue I have with it, there’s many more where they haven’t cared one bit about match going fans that have made football what it is and are clearly going global tv rights route.
Why is the club wanting more money an issue then? You could apply the exact same logic.
What if, I dunno, money is better distributed so that there are no dross teams...????
Oh right, too crazy sure
People want money, yet here you are complaining over the super league?
I'm not saying that he's personally the one who has skewered the system. But if you take that paycheck then you should know that there will be ramifications at some point on a global level at some point.
Nothing comes for free.
Twitter thread on the new owners of AC Milan
Apologies if this thread has been posted before, but I thought it needed to be shared... feck me. The game is beyond gone.
Ok. You call out the only people with influence who can do anything whatsoever about this every time they comment. That will teach them.
For sure, don't for one minute believe PSG will make any kind of stand, they haven't got the legs to stand with.
Yes, but so are Real, Barsa and Atlético. I wonder if their rules and regulations allow them to make this move without consulting their members?
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So you can't live in Turkey and not like the Super League?
What are the other locations that aren't allowed to not like the Super League? Peru? e-Swatini?
And Glazers didnt have to do that if they were comfortable with getting pumped every year?
I cant see why lessening a machine like the Utd brand helps them in any way. Say we do turn to shit, the EPL money and sponsors we lose makes any super league windfall shrink surely?
Imagine dominating a super league and the money that would bring.
Again, there's no nuance to this position at all. You can think that there's too much money in the game and too many rich owners with no connection to the clubs they own whilst at the same time be of the opinion that this is a step too far. Forming a breakaway league that you can't be relegated from goes against the very nature of professional football as a competition. It's understandable that (ex) professional players would think that way too.
The PL are now in an impossible situation that damages the integrity of their competition regardless of any recourse they take if this goes ahead. Likewise this has a knock on effect for all the leagues and clubs below who aspire to a seat at the table.
exactly.
You accept PSG you ultimately will accept a super league.
You accept Chelsea and City you will get a super league.
Status and competition would keep it competitive and entertaining within that group. Why do I care about finishing second instead of fourth this season? Because I hate our rivals and want to finish ahead. That would still ring true at any level. The increased quality would also prevent it from ever getting too boring.
Dejan Lovren: "Football will be on a brink of complete collapse. Nobody is thinking about the bigger picture, only the financial side"
Right, I just think in this instance, his voice isn't really worth a lot. PSG has been left out in the cold and is most likely fuming about this with all the money spent on Qatar 2022 and Champions League success.
I don't think Ander was influenced per se, but I'd value it more if it came from say Bruno Fernandes etc.
I would push back against the whole "this announcements shows that these clubs don't care about their supporters" narrative pushed by some pundits and fans.
While I think it shows that the management of these clubs doesn't care about the football pyramid as a whole or fans of other clubs. I don't agree that it shows they don't care about the fans of their own club.
As if you are a fan of one of these clubs, you will likely get to watch higher quality football on a regular basis. And due to the extra revenue, the clubs will likely get more star and big-name signings, something which you just have to read this forum to see is almost as important to fans as what happens on the pitch.
So while I think this league would likely be bad for the game as a whole I don't think it shows contempt from the owners of these clubs to their own fans.
While I think it shows that the management of these clubs doesn't care about the football pyramid as a whole or fans of other clubs. I don't agree that it shows they don't care about the fans of their own club.
As if you are a fan of one of these clubs, you will likely get to watch higher quality football on a regular basis. And due to the extra revenue, the clubs will likely get more star and big-name signings, something which you just have to read this forum to see is almost as important to fans as what happens on the pitch.
So while I think this league would likely be bad for the game as a whole I don't think it shows contempt from the owners of these clubs to their own fans.
The American sports franchise model at it's core. Run by the owners and with guaranteed incomes.
There's no local rivalry with Madrid, they're just another big team. It's special because it rarely happens. If it becomes something that happens every year, I just don't see how its that exciting? At first maybe, but the whole thing would get dry very quickly.
Well said indeed.
Not often I'd agree with him (Since he's come out with such ridiculous stuff over the years) but he's spot on here
Inveitable once petrol clubs like City and PSG were allowed in and to flout rules without any punishment. The old guard were always going to react to the financial doping that artificially increased their costs and hit profits.
This is why, as an American, I recognize there is a hierarchy when it comes to fans.
I remember being attracted to European football because of the passion of the fanbases of each club, and how that fed into the actual sport on the pitch.
The sport would be nothing without them and their clubs from non-league all the way to the highest levels. To dismiss 99% of football as irrelevant, in favor of overseas cnuts who "just want to see the best go at it every week" is an insult. I can't understand why sports fan would be for this.
Same. The sport would be nothing without those local fans being dismissed so casually as "legacy fans" (like what the feck??).
It’s an hilarious suggestion which clearly has no thought behind it
Shameful, perhaps the darkest day in the history of the beautiful game. On SSN just now "One board member has said they would be prepared to leave the premiership over this if required, due to the riches on offer". This sum's it up, no consultation with the fans just to line up their pockets with vast sums of money. Because making £100/200 million + profits a year just isn't enough these day....
Foreign owners, acting in foreign interests with no regard for local fans, the sacrifice, family traditions and origins of the game. Just destroys the pyramid of football and hurts all clubs/fans in the national league/lower levels.
Foreign owners, acting in foreign interests with no regard for local fans, the sacrifice, family traditions and origins of the game. Just destroys the pyramid of football and hurts all clubs/fans in the national league/lower levels.
The PL might have started similarly as a break away league but at least teams have something to fight for whether it’s avoiding relegation, qualifying for the EL or CL. There is no purpose to this ESL other than to make the rich owners richer under the guise of “exciting football between the big boys”.
You're right you could, that's why this whole league has been formed... But this isn't even the original point, this stemmed from the fact that a few members are never satisfied, and aren't happy Herrara stepped up just because he plays for PSG...
I just don't think it would. If both teams had some of the best players in the world then the level of quality on display makes it interesting. All competitions start somewhere and rivalry would very quickly pick up. We have little history with Burnley and yet I hate them at the moment, the difference there is you don't even have the quality to fall back onto so it's just a hard watch.
This sums everything up. The thin end of the wedge happened years ago and no one dared to do anything about it because everyone was getting rich.
I agree, but that isn't going to happen. Just like we arent going to redistribute wealth in society. Capitalism is the issue, it just happened to filter into football increasingly.
Says the man who went to play in Russia for 4m Euro a year...
You are a troll.
Massive credit to a current player, particularly one playing for a rich club like PSG.
Playing for a team owned by Gazprom
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How very dare you say that about Wumminator.
Harsh to to be having a go at Herrera. Can't begrudge him for thinking of his own career and finances in joining PSG. It doesn't preclude him from having an opinion and being a "legacy fan" with us. Let's see if anyone at the clubs dare to speak out.
Also goes some way to explaining why we didn’t invest despite losing each CB to a season ending injury. The pricks knew this was coming, a guaranteed pot of money each year.
Yep.