Any breakaway English or British league would have the exact same negatives as the Super League. You'd need the majority to breakaway for it not to be a massively watered down version of what we've currently got.
European Super League
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Well done Porto, always thought they were a good club. Well done to others who have refused to take part also.
Isn't this proposed to start in 2022 season.
Says it all that it would provisonally start the same year as Qatar world cup bunged in halfway through the domestic season. Players thinking this season's schedule has been insane would have even more games to play in condensed period.
Says it all that it would provisonally start the same year as Qatar world cup bunged in halfway through the domestic season. Players thinking this season's schedule has been insane would have even more games to play in condensed period.
Like I have said, it isn't Herrara's fault the owners are like that is it? He's a football player with a passion, as we saw at United and I'm pretty sure if he was at Lille or Nantes he would not have a different view.
And English, Tottenham is owned by an English company
Isnt it because German clubs are part owned by fans, and they knew their fans would never entertain this
Well your first scenario, we would still be competing against the other 4 SL teams in the PL so there is competition. We also have to buy players like Rice and Grealish and you can bet we'd get rinsed so they would have a feck tonne of cash to spend once they sold to us anyway. It's up to them what they do with that and if they can become successful off of that windfall.
Second scenario, the Premier League is a breakaway league, technically nothing before 92 counts anymore but we still count it. The new league would only do the exact same.
Only country with proper football ownership
Lukas Podolski: "This project is disgusting, not fair and I'm disappointed to see clubs I represented involved"
You respect it if it comes from clubs that have been historically bankrolled?
JP Morgan taking care of the investment.
3/6 top 6 teams in EPL has American owners.
ESL that no genunie football fan wants.
Whats next, commercials half way through the first and second half?
Seriously, get this American capitalist BS away from our beautiful european game.
3/6 top 6 teams in EPL has American owners.
ESL that no genunie football fan wants.
Whats next, commercials half way through the first and second half?
Seriously, get this American capitalist BS away from our beautiful european game.
The CL group stages are generally boring bar the odd big team elimination, even more so for europa league groups where hardly anyone decent is knocked out.
So basically with this format you're playing 3 times as many group matches before you get to the knock out rounds where it heats up.
Takeovers are probably irrelevant to this. I bet Madrid, Barcelona, Manutd, Liverpool, Arsenal, and the Italian clubs etc. would have still sought this out, eventually. The current owners aren't the only greedy people on the planet.
The takeovers just add City, Chelsea (they might have qualified regardless), and PSG as potential candidates. PSG aren't even joining, supposedly.
It potentially accelerated the process, but it would have happened at one point.
Simple.
They are far from having the same financial issues as Spanish and Italian clubs, and are not owned by Russian/Middle East oligarchs or US business tycoons.
Oh, excellent stuff. We can all rest easy now, our fears of it being a tedious, money-driven enterprise with no element of fairness and competition have been quelled by @TrustInJanuzaj with that statement.
Imagine this season in the PL with a super league. All the super league clubs other than City would have nothing to play for since end of January (or even before that in some of the teams cases) as soon as City ran away with the title. You'd see them all resting players for mid week super league games. Why even bother watching the PL when nothing to play for?
I reckon the big 6 might be in for quite a big shock if they try and force this through. Pretty certain it'll collapse one way or another.
The CL expansion is also a terrible idea though. The administration of football generally is a shambles and this half baked super league plan is the result.
The general situation. I know this has beeb threatened before many times but cant believe United are pushing ahead with this.
Honestly, they were just an example. I don't know enough about French football. I could've said, St Etienne or Troyes. Doesn't really matter.
The bucs were pretty much shit for the last 15 years until Brady showed up, his contract wasn’t even that much that man just wants to win and he brings players who want to win as well and that will fit Cap space because they know they have a chance of winning.
I'd be all for that, but seeing as Cork City were relegated to the second tier of League of Ireland last year it probably a touch unrealistic.
Then again, if Spurs can be in a Super League you never know.
We have domestic stadiums to fill. What's stopping a self run streaming service for all 'new breakaway PL' being set up? I'm sure more teams would happily sign up if they were guaranteed more money than they currently get in the PL.
The point is they didn't have to. They could have been happy to participate and rake in the money.
Hey, we can all dream right? Didn't know Cork had fallen on hard times.
What about after a few games when it is apparent who the top 5 will be so all games between bottom 5 will be absolutely pointless. Especially if the founders are in the bottom 5 as they will still be in the competition again next year. no matter what
I'm sure he wouldn't but he went there and got his check. Let's not forget he left United to get that check. I'm not saying that they are the main culprits but he's certainly a part of the problem.
Without relegation the european super league will be a necropolis of the living dead. You have to be able to die in order to live. You have to be able to lose in order to win. Otherwise we're just paying to see a bunch of men randomly kick a piece of leather.
Do you want players to speak up or not? What the feck is even this opinion.
Chris Purslow putting it really well:
The Villa chief executive Christian Purslow, formerly of Liverpool, has branded the Super League a “grotesque concept”. Speaking to BBC Radio Four, he said: “These proposals do away with sporting merit. It would enable a small number of clubs to be in this competition come what may and, for millions of people in football, that goes against everything the sport means and stands for. The idea is that the uncertainty that comes with sport, that makes it so compelling, that we all love, is actually damaging to the business model of these huge clubs. So the scheme is designed to take away that uncertainty, to give predictability to their businesses so that, if they’re badly managed or have a poor year, they’re still in the premier tournament. Does that sound like sport or football to you? To me it sounds a grotesque concept.”
The Villa chief executive Christian Purslow, formerly of Liverpool, has branded the Super League a “grotesque concept”. Speaking to BBC Radio Four, he said: “These proposals do away with sporting merit. It would enable a small number of clubs to be in this competition come what may and, for millions of people in football, that goes against everything the sport means and stands for. The idea is that the uncertainty that comes with sport, that makes it so compelling, that we all love, is actually damaging to the business model of these huge clubs. So the scheme is designed to take away that uncertainty, to give predictability to their businesses so that, if they’re badly managed or have a poor year, they’re still in the premier tournament. Does that sound like sport or football to you? To me it sounds a grotesque concept.”
Agnelli being a snake isn't exactly knew, anyone that has been following the UEFA-ECA dealing in the last decades knows that he is the head snake and has been pushing for these kind of things from day one. It's part of the revamping he has started with Juventus including their awful new logo.
I disagree with this as a principle, but watching the best players playing against each other every week should be the dream for every football fan. The group stages are boring because 50% of the teams in the competition are dross. I guarantee that playing Madrid will never get boring, nor will Ronaldo Vs Messi etc. It would be the highest level of football ever showcased.
So? Again, not his fault PSG offered him that much money. You're telling me, if you could basically double your wage (weekly), you wouldn't take it? People want money. Players aren't the issue here, the owners are.
It would be worse if he didn't say anything, though. It needs more players speaking out against it, but ideally from the clubs that are going to be joining.
Isn't that part of the new UCL proposal?
I'd expect PSG will be well on board once their owners are confident their won't be any negative impact toward the World Cup they're hosting
Hot take: IF a group of players from any of the big 6 clubs in England actually takes a stand publicly, this could quickly spin into a actual social movement that can stop this thing in its tracks.
Hey Marcus, want to fasttrack that Sir title? Post a tweet.
Hey Marcus, want to fasttrack that Sir title? Post a tweet.
I'm calling out the insane amount of hypocrisy on display.
The only thing missing is Saudi Arabia taking a humanitarian stand against the World Cup in Qatar