European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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It's still based on Merit though. Super league is for the rich boys and qualification isn't needed.
Arsenal are in the ESL but won't be in the CL why because they're rich and a founder.. not because they're any fecking good.
Amazed that Newcastle haven't piped up that they are a big club.
 
I understand where you are coming from but step back and ask yourself is for example Man Utd vs Juventus for the umpteenth time less glamorous than say Man Utd vs Charlton Athletic in the Carabao Cup which it would essentially replace in the football schedule? Also the plans are more for the future of the game. Even if they lost you as a fan, there are many fans around the world who this is targeted for as well as kids in this country who will only know this new league that will replace you as a consumer which is what us fans are in modern football.
The problem is that it is not merit based
 
The players are surely having some sort of meeting in training this morning.

Rashford especially will not go against the People.

The players should all knock on Woodward's door together and tell him and the Glazers to get to feck.

What are the Glazers gonna do? Transfer list them all??

For once player power might be used for something good.
 
That's what it has always been, it's not a replacement for the PL

it will severely degrade the premier league as a competition. They are talking an extra £300m for the ‘big 6’ a season from the SL. You will see a predictable 6 team mini league at the top of the prem because of the extra spending power. You will see 6 man cities not 1 when 1 is bad enough.
 
What will really feck us is the hot takes about how UEFA are just as bad and the game's been gone since 1992/2005 etc.

And the paid-for pundits, and the bots beginning to pop up in the twitter/reddit comments, and dickhead fans who think they're achingly cool to posture about money and football and go against the grain for clicks, and all the other assorted takes that muddy the waters and dilute the opposition. I don't care that the Premier league and uefa is already greedy. We know.

We need absolute solid unity on this. And serious threats of action. This is defeatable.

Yes, I know it won't happen. Just the sad old rants of a legacy fan.
 
hope they fecking do plus a -15 points deduction this season
not sure you can punish anyone for saying something might happen. would lose any court case in any democracy in the world. If they actually go ahead and join SL then all bets are off
 
It is JP Morgan who is going to finance it initially but it is not surprising. Credit rates are almost down to zero and these clubs can all pay back their debts. The biggest income is tv rights but I will be skeptical to offer huge money for this. First, the public reaction is as bad as it gets. Second, with the repetition of the same games, it will lose its aura. Yes, the big games in CL are watched by more people simply because most of the teams are eliminated and people have nothing else to watch anyway. If these 20 teams play with each other every week, they will compete each other for audiance.

Sevilla, who has been one of the best run clubs for the last 15 years is not in, but Arsenal is included. Give me a break.

If that was true, NBA wouldn't be such a big deal every year, since there are no promotions/demotions system. They are choosing clubs for worldwide fan count, and Arsenal has millions more than Sevilla.
Besides, the asian and american markets reacted very well to this news. For them, loosing a few european viewers won't make that much of an impact when compared to the number of new viewers they will get. TV contracts will rain down hard, a matter of time.
The passion is on our side, the fans side. But those who manage clubs are businessman and will do what they have to do to make more money. This is something the big clubs were trying to do since the late 80s, we know the day would come. Maybe it will be not this year, but I think it will happen sooner or later.
 
Sadly the formation of the ESL was inevitable, football stopped being a working man's sport with the Premier league breakaway in 1992.
When broadcaster's put in billions of pounds, and players are paid £100k + a week it became more about the money.
 


Ain't this the truth. We'd be a mid table team in 90% of the seasosns at best in a Super League.

Wanting a competition they we would never even aim to compete in couldn't be more pathetic.
 
Why do you presume to know how thousands of people's minds work? Why do you have so much confidence that people are just confused and being led like sheep by Sky ect?

Do you actually believe that there is not at least a couple of people in the 95% of the public who are talking about this and are very annoyed that might know the game better than you and understand the implications of a move like this?

I am not calling you an arrogant person but that stance is very arrogant.
I'm simply saying anything could happen. Keep an open mind instead of jumping on one stance and going all in.

Let's say we get banned with the other teams from the PL. Are we really just not going to play domestic football? We'll form a breakaway league for sure.

I know this is all new and it's a lot of change but football is due something like this. Sky and the PL have had their way for 30 years.
 


Ain't this the truth. We'd be a mid table team in 90% of the seasosns at best in a Super League.

Wanting a competition they we would never even aim to compete in couldn't be more pathetic.

Like when they recently invested (got Brady) in the Bucs and won the superbowl
 
Honestly nobody knows what how it will all develop and sort out. Maybe it all goes down the route of boxing and in several years we even have 3-4 world champions at the same time.
 
Well some of the teams in this league is far from super...but good for spurs and gunners, they will participat no mattet what :)

Closed leagues take away so much from any sport. We need the ride of fighting for your spot
 
Here are my two cents on this issue.

I am from India, a country that has tremendous potential. However during the COVID times I have seen how the rich have held hands with the government and become even richer. There is a clear shift of wealth and something we can only understand after the current panic dies down.

I believe the big clubs have also used the same mechanism. They have the pull, they have a fan base, they have the top players. They also have the resources and the infrastructure.

It will finally boil down to the fans. We are ones who will have to voice our protest. We will have to stand up to these thugs in the most non violent way even though these people are extremely powerful and have everyone in their pocket. Being from India, I have gotten used to protesting against this greed/incompetence. Looking forward to my first protest beyond the borders.
 
I'm simply saying anything could happen. Keep an open mind instead of jumping on one stance and going all in.

Let's say we get banned with the other teams from the PL. Are we really just not going to play domestic football? We'll form a breakaway league for sure.

I know this is all new and it's a lot of change but football is due something like this. Sky and the PL have had their way for 30 years.

But just for arguments sake, what would a breakaway league look like? Who would be involved? Without the whole of the English football pryamid connected and involved it'll be just as hollow as the SL. I know you've shown not much care for every other club, but imagine our breakaway league was just the top 6 slugging it out with each other? :lol:

I wish we could know what's going to happen sooner to be honest, all the guesswork is exhausting. I just don't want league football in this country to be destroyed.
 
He ironically says while playing for a club whose rich owners stole fair competition from all the the other teams in its league.

They stole nothing, french football has always been about patrons, PSG aren't different to the rest.
 
Pinto da Costa (Porto President) confirms there were talks but in the end Porto denied participating in The Super League


Thank God we refused to join this farce
 
Not atta boy at all.

He is playing for PSG. They are owned by a literal nation that destroys everything around them.


PSG are against this because it threatens their incredible advantage. Herrera caring about money in football is ridiculous.

People like you are never satisfied. Always something to moan about.

Be happy he's taken a step, even if he does play for PSG. What he's said is completely right.
 
Havent they signed a letter of intent yesterday evening?
Not sure... but intent is "doing". A court wouldn't see a letter of intent as the same as a known burglar being found outside a mansion with a crowbar in hand :lol: