Yea. I mentioned this exact same thing previously but Pep says some BS in media. If any one has access to Amazon's All or Nothing series, please go and watch City's.
Wages.
Problem is we need to sell as well before more incomings.
Ideally we should just be paying maybe 10m or, at most, 20m net on this signing. The players we spent internally generated resources on, are Zirkee and Yoro. We need our Transfer Fee Account (my own creation) to slowly return to sustainability over the next few years and that means missing out on a few players, unfortunately.
Didn't he have 2 years left when he went to Bayern? Doesn't really change the point, but as far as I see he came in 2019, left in 2022 and had 5 year contract at Juve.
You couldn’t be more clearer in your first post. How did he think that you said De ligt was better?
You couldn’t be more clearer in your first post. How did he think that you said De ligt was better?
Your post was directed at those who were comparing them. I was pointing out that, whoever first claimed De Ligt was better than Martinez, would also be claiming he's as good as VVD. Even if they are stylistically different, they play the same position, and could easily be compared at least in terms of tiers.
If Juve wanted to keep him, they would have. They are Juventus, about the most crooked there used to be before the state clubs dwarfed them. They would have made it workable if they deemed him worth the outlay. I mean, come on.
Yep solid mentally and a very good player. Could even see him as captain in a few years.
But something doesn’t add up; no club relinquishes elite defenders they want to keep, even if other players had to be sold to pay their star turn, they would do it.
Leaving Ajax he looked like the next great one and he and De Jong both got premium rate for that. Unfortunately, neither lived up to their billing and their clubs try to offload them when they can.
Pep would have sold him by then, but he would be overrated like he is now. Maguire has a good PR team and managed to convince people criticism for his poor games is bullying.
Which kind of spade is De Ligt? A club?
Cute, but it doesn't change anything. Guy is being carted around by clubs who so wish they could keep him and are sad to see him go. Naturally.
this isn't the 90s anymoreNone of what we write chances anything, apart from among ourselves. I just think you gave an overly simplistic account of what to expect from De Ligt as a player. Having seen him play, including for Bayern, he looks like he’s well worth what we look like paying for him, which is not what Juve paid. I don’t think eaither of us can credibly predict how he is going to do for us, as with any CB really.
Dutch CBs at the Euros included Van Dijk, De Vrij, Aké, Van de Ven, and De Ligt. All of those would improve United's roster of CBs (assuming Maguire and/or Lindelöf leave). I would have most doubts about De Vrij actually - who kept De Ligt out of the team for tactical reasons, not on pure quality. So it's a non-point you're making here.
For what it's worth, the reports say that he's willing to take a pay cut to join United.
Sorry which part is a non-point?
Bayern have to cut their wage bill and gave de Ligt £260k/week (apparently)… lots of clubs will/should be to meet incoming squad cost:revenue rules.
The bit about it mattering that he doesn't start for the Netherlands, per what I explained.
Again, make things up and then pass it off as a fact, you have no idea why he is leaving, but you go with a negative view. He is a top class player who will improve United.
I think his career does need a revival. You can’t tell me his career is where you thought it would be by now when he left Ajax (as their teenage captain wasn’t he?)
I’m sceptical, but the quoted posts below, that would bring him more in line with what his “worth” is at least make it a fair punt to make.
Cheers, both.
As above; happy to be proven wrong.
