De Ligt in "that" Ajax season was far better than Martinez at Ajax. He was so good even I rooted for him. As for not being player of the season. Bit hard if it's between you, Frenkie, Tadic and Ziyech who all had their career best season.
Maybe it's just me, but it feels like Dias has regressed a fair bit. Feels like he's normally behind Stones and Akanji these days. Maybe it's because of injuries, or Pep just prefers them now because they can play a few different positions, whereas Dias is very much a CB.
What has all of this endless ‘debate’ got to do with DeLigt joining us?Oh yes, another incredible RedCafe narrative that Pep and City fake an interest in "bad" players so that United will panic and overpay to sign them
The most reputable journalists confirming City's interest in said players doesn't matter I guess
Totally uninformed posters laughing at others
I guess it's easier to disregard facts and laugh because in hindsight you try to look smart, instead of realizing that for any player the environment is the most important thing that has the biggest say on how well they are able to perform in a team
I'm sure Messi would've scored 91 goals in 2012 if he was playing for Aston Villa instead of Barcelona, and I'm sure Rúben Dias would've looked like a world beater if he was playing for United last season.
This inability to understand something so obvious and so simple is why Foden is such an overrated player as well
Pep also said he wanted 1000 Dantes at Bayern, despite benching the one he had. Anyway, not Licha's fault Pep heaped praise on him, but it is not a great argument.
I am not trying to downplay de Ligt, he was awesome at Ajax. However Ajax in 2021/2022 was defensively even better than Ajax in 2018/2019, and Martinez was Ajax' best player that season. Competition was less than 18/19 (Timber, Haller, Antony, Tadic, Berghuis, Alvarez were some of the competition). They had a wonderful defense as well in the Champions League conceding 5 goals in 6 matches (also vs Haaland).
What are you on about?
What are you on about?
Maguire making top 5 CBs in serie A.
He wasn't even the best CB at Leicester when we vastly overpaid for him.
Also what do you know of how much football other people watch and what other teams they watch?
Agreed. I find your takes just weird. Agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Pep about Maguire:
That's fair.
As you said in other post; i am not downplaying his quality. He is very good defender and i am glad that we have him. But he is labelled as our best signing in ages which is not true. Guy missed one whole season and in first season he was in team when trashing against City, Pool and Brentford happened.
Don't think it's that serious mate, nothing more than keeping up with the traditional spirit of muppetry of the summer window
Your points of criticism seem to include being involved in trashings, and the fact that he hasn't been much available with injuries.
It's the classic Internet move of "if you add numbers to your bullshit, it immidiately sounds objective".
Both have the same agent. Both have been told they can leave. Hopefully we will get deals done for booths soon
We can all read his wiki. We can also see that all the plaudits ended after 2019 when he left Ajax.
As a funny thing to say, it’s ok. It’s too much of an exaggeration to work as a serious statement though.
How is he overrated? He’s our best CB when fit. Simple as that. Also when the best manager in the world (Guardiola) hails him as being the difference maker then you know he’s a good player.
Well said.
Martinez was one of the best defenders in the league last year. To say De Ligt is better than him would put him up amongst the likes of VVD.
