Yep. Agreed. That brain fart didn’t spoil the performance. Which is why I never get people using Allison’s occasional similar cock ups as evidence that he’s not a good keeper. I thought DDG generally passed the ball very well tonight so have no problem with one loose one.
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Yep. Agreed. That brain fart didn’t spoil the performance. Which is why I never get people using Allison’s occasional similar cock ups as evidence that he’s not a good keeper. I thought DDG generally passed the ball very well tonight so have no problem with one loose one.
Not really, I never said he only did that. He tends to play it safe and to defenders what made a lot of sense in those conditions.
The one thing I wish he did was kick to the side when he's blasting it out. He always goes down the middle and it just about reaches the half way line, like his kick before the one on one.
Thought first half though his passing was really really good until the one that lead to their only chance. His first touch from malacias insane back pass was good too.
Thought first half though his passing was really really good until the one that lead to their only chance. His first touch from malacias insane back pass was good too.
Yeah an occasional loose one can happen to every keeper.
Good save, chance come straight from one of his trademark slow floaty goal kicks that i swear he just puts into midfield for opposition players to attack. But still good one on one save.
His distribution was a complete mixed bag, started quite well than got worse as the night went on. Far too many passes to noone and nowhere. Few good ones in there though aswell.
Got lucky with his brain fart kicking the ball straight against Toney.
Interesting to watch Raya tonight, so much more composed, confident and purposeful with his distribution, not flawless but just so confident and compleatly trusted by his teammates. What I would give for that with our no 1.
His distribution was a complete mixed bag, started quite well than got worse as the night went on. Far too many passes to noone and nowhere. Few good ones in there though aswell.
Got lucky with his brain fart kicking the ball straight against Toney.
Interesting to watch Raya tonight, so much more composed, confident and purposeful with his distribution, not flawless but just so confident and compleatly trusted by his teammates. What I would give for that with our no 1.
Helped by the fact Brentfords press was a lot worse than Newcastles but distribution still poor. Almost a repeat of the DCL goal a few seasons back when he kicked it into Toney. Good save on the one v one.
Raya's distribution as the game wore on got better and better. He hit two lovely pings in the 73rd (or it might have been the 74th minute), with either foot with fantastic technique and the correct weight and trajectory. He plays in a team that looks to go direct but I think he would improve further in a team that looks to build the play via shorter passes. I was quite impressed and he looks a very interesting keeper for a team that wants to develop a imposing play style.
Another good performance by Dave Save. Didn't really see anything special from Raya that screaming "need to buy".
DDG again didn't have a clue where his opponent was and we were really lucky, plus he just kicks it all over the place. He isn't anywhere near good enough. Fine between the sticks but the rest has much to be desired.
It's time we move on in the summer.
He was really good this game
We all know De Gea is not the strongest passer of the ball, half the time we blame him and ignore our defenders role in it all.
He got passed a tricky ball and our left side of defence wasn’t positioned well enough but he gets called for cleaning a messy situation. You provide a poor passer the right outlet, they will distribute properly. I remember Barthez used to get a lot of stick for distribution errors but our defenders at the time also had the same issue. Passing from the back is a combination of the goalkeeper ability and outfield playermovement. The movement of our defenders/midfielders is rubbish.
I am gonna call out another observation here. We don’t have an Ivan Toney to receive long balls and when a pass similar to the one Sancho received is made, it gets ignored.
I don’t think his saves chances other goalkeepers can’t. This is an argument that started when LVG was here because we used any stick to flog the man. Funnily it was proven then a competent enough goalkeeper in our net will make the same saves but we needed to protect our own.
What he has over other goalkeepers at smaller clubs is the temperament to play for Manchester United. The ones that’ll match him are already at the big clubs, everyone else we will have to wait till they get here for us to see that part of their game. Man City and Liverpool are not Manchester United and their players are not doubted even at their best. The errors I have seen those two goalies make and we all ignore as it never happens is unbelievable.
His lack of bravado has been his problem since the day he got here. To play for us you need bravado to gain the trust of fans and respect of opposition or else your time here will be a nightmare.
He got passed a tricky ball and our left side of defence wasn’t positioned well enough but he gets called for cleaning a messy situation. You provide a poor passer the right outlet, they will distribute properly. I remember Barthez used to get a lot of stick for distribution errors but our defenders at the time also had the same issue. Passing from the back is a combination of the goalkeeper ability and outfield playermovement. The movement of our defenders/midfielders is rubbish.
I am gonna call out another observation here. We don’t have an Ivan Toney to receive long balls and when a pass similar to the one Sancho received is made, it gets ignored.
I don’t think his saves chances other goalkeepers can’t. This is an argument that started when LVG was here because we used any stick to flog the man. Funnily it was proven then a competent enough goalkeeper in our net will make the same saves but we needed to protect our own.
What he has over other goalkeepers at smaller clubs is the temperament to play for Manchester United. The ones that’ll match him are already at the big clubs, everyone else we will have to wait till they get here for us to see that part of their game. Man City and Liverpool are not Manchester United and their players are not doubted even at their best. The errors I have seen those two goalies make and we all ignore as it never happens is unbelievable.
His lack of bravado has been his problem since the day he got here. To play for us you need bravado to gain the trust of fans and respect of opposition or else your time here will be a nightmare.
Amazing. Yet another clean sheet and a win to help get into Top 4. Good performance!
I have seen this mentioned several times on this forum but we have hardly been a top team during his time here , not a single proper league challenge since Sir Alex retired and barely made an impression in Champions league either can we definitively say he has the temperament to actually excel in truly Top team I have my doubts .
You don’t stop being Manchester United because you’ve not won the league. There is a reason journalists make a career out of report or spreading rumours about us. At United it’s about winning or underperforming.
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Hope the guy at the other end laced De Gea's boots before kick off.
My point was he has hardly been tested being part of team contesting for honours which would bring different kind of pressure , I just don't see De Gea excelling I actually have my doubts about his temperament and mentality .
I don’t know his mentality because I never sat down and have a conversation with the lad. His temperament is clear as daylight for all to see.
Honestly feel that Erik is keeping him sweet until he can get replacement whether that's Raya/Costa/Maignan
Malignant is my choice there. Costa has not really impressed me but different environment brings out different things in football.
I hope that's the case because extending his contract would just mean nothing has changed at United .
I am sure he made some comment about his kicking earlier in season but can't find it
Mine too but zero links so far
good save on 1 on 1 but really bad in passing yet again. Or I'm seeing things?
If Brentford scored the exact goal we did last night, you can bet your ass GK experts would be on here explaining how a proactive GK prevents that goal with ease. And yes I think that Raya is a solid enough GK himself.
He was decent, few dodgy kicks, there were several he just booted away under zero pressure. That is fecking annoying.
1 decent save, but milked the shite of it by rolling round on the ground after. Feck me just get up and be ready to deal with the next ball if it comes back. Then sit down if you are actually hurt, which he wasn't.
I have to say, I laughed when he decided to finally come for a corner and got totally out jumped by Varane even with his hands up.
1 decent save, but milked the shite of it by rolling round on the ground after. Feck me just get up and be ready to deal with the next ball if it comes back. Then sit down if you are actually hurt, which he wasn't.
I have to say, I laughed when he decided to finally come for a corner and got totally out jumped by Varane even with his hands up.
He needs to change his agent.
When it’s given blindly to you, it’s actually pretty amazing.
Yeah, I reckon De Gea saves the goal we scored.
Raya has got better distribution but I'd much prefer my keeper to make the saves that matter.
I’ve bad news for you he’s extending his contract
Did anyone notice Pope giving up a goal from a deep cross in his 6 yard box last night?
I. Was. Shocked.
I. Was. Shocked.
Yes. Keepers shouldnt come out of their line just so they dont concede from time to time I guess.
I was told on Sunday that he claims those crosses blindfolded and here we are on Thursday.
I watched it with a big grin on my face
When it’s given blindly to you, it’s actually pretty amazing.
The last one is DDG?? Has to be.
You were asked certain questions you skipped.
I guess you skipped those with a grin on your face as well.
I answered all relevant questions thank you
It seems he is doing an Amadeus .
Yeah, that really didn't happen. Thank you.
Wasn’t bad but I thought it was clear which team had the better keeper last night.
Yeh. It's like he purposely did that to make some people look silly. Then you also saw Raya passed it to opponent under no pressure. It's glorious.
Yep it was. De Gea would save the goal Raya conceded. Raya has a nicer left peg though
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