United could sell the players souls in exchange for more success. Just put it in small writing in ludicrous contracts and our overhyped players will think they're robbing us when we're really robbing them. There's no way this could backfire!
Dani Olmo
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
Surely he won't be free to leave in January.
Has there been a case like this before?
Has there been a case like this before?
Probably on loan in January till they can register him for next season
No matter what, something will magically appear from thin air thus ensuring they keep the player.
Must have ran out of levers to pull by now
This seems like the obvious solution.
The levers never run out. Like magic bullets.Must have ran out of levers to pull by now
Slow and a crock. No thanks.
Olmo's contract includes a clause that allows him to leave for free if he can't be registered by December 31st, because he wouldn't be able to play for the rest of the season. He would, of course, have to exercise that clause. So Barca can go at this in a couple of very Barca-esque ways. The first is through the pulling of some highly shady, and speculative levers. A tried and tested trick, but one it seems that La Liga is finally closing the door on; and the other is by restructuring his contract. If Barca extend his contract before December 31st, reducing his salary for the year to the amount he has already been paid, he would essentially play the rest of the season for free and be able to be registered. In turn they would pay him the deferred sum plus a bonus next season, or spread over the remaining years of his contract. This is essentially what they did with De Jong. It true kicking the can down the road mode, but we know they don't care about that. And players seems to bend over to take it up the rear from the club.
De Jong is now one of the highest paid players in La Liga, but sits on the bench most of the time, because of how much deferred wages he accumulated. And what did he get in return for deferring the vast chunk of his wages? They desperately tried to kick him out the door before they came due, and in doping so refused to make him whole. He, of course, famously dug his heels in and stayed, but weirdly still preaches untold love for the club that treated him with so much disregard. In a normal world, I would say Olmo would look at that and say, pay me what you owe me this season, or I walk on a free in January. But you all know he won't.
De Jong is now one of the highest paid players in La Liga, but sits on the bench most of the time, because of how much deferred wages he accumulated. And what did he get in return for deferring the vast chunk of his wages? They desperately tried to kick him out the door before they came due, and in doping so refused to make him whole. He, of course, famously dug his heels in and stayed, but weirdly still preaches untold love for the club that treated him with so much disregard. In a normal world, I would say Olmo would look at that and say, pay me what you owe me this season, or I walk on a free in January. But you all know he won't.
Does he have the physicality to improve that side of things for us !
Oh yeah, he's definitely not good enough to play for the 14th best side in England...
Laporta will sell his own mother if he has to.
They'll keep him.
They'll keep him.
We will ruin him. Best friends with Mount and Shaw in no time.
It’s funny because people said this about Gundogan before he joined City the first time.
I’ll be surprised if this fails. Pretty sure they’ll get registered soon. But if not, while I like what Olmo brings, we should look at Victor - fast, good linkup play and has technique to keep the ball. He fits Amorim’s system as he can play left or right ST.
Of course he'll be getting registered.
This is not the case at all
If they can’t register him, he is no longer theirs, contract is up. He is free to leave on a free. No loan, no nothing. He is no longer theirs. You simply cannot own a player you do not own. He is not theirs until he is registered.
As far as I believe
Available on a free tomorrow. Not sure he is the right choice for us but hell for free he is certainly worth a gamble if we don't put him on 300k p/w and a 5 year contract.
Gotta love Barca!
1. How fast can he run
2. How strong is he
These are the first 2 questions we should be asking
2. How strong is he
These are the first 2 questions we should be asking
He’ll add some creativity to our play for sure
Olmo is a known crock; made of balsa wood.
I'm pretty sure that it's a bit more complicated than that.
1. The fact that he's not registered doesn't automatically void his contract, they can't play him in La Liga but they still own him
2. He has a clause (it's funny that he had to include it but with the current state of Barça you had to think about such things) that allows him to annul that contract if he's not registered. But this doesn't happen automatically
14, 11, and 14 league games missed due to injury in the past 3 seasons (and that’s out of 34 game seasons in the BL).
That’s 38% of league games over three years. Tempting on a free but considering that we’d probably offer him an insane salary, this is not very appealing.
I’ve come to appreciate Bruno and Dalot’s availability and ability to play every minute over the past few years, especially compared to Mount and Shaw.
That’s 38% of league games over three years. Tempting on a free but considering that we’d probably offer him an insane salary, this is not very appealing.
I’ve come to appreciate Bruno and Dalot’s availability and ability to play every minute over the past few years, especially compared to Mount and Shaw.
He's not very good, and very ugly.
We've enough ugos already.
We've enough ugos already.
Considering our poor state of finances, doubt we can do better than Olmo on loan. Now signing him on a free, that I'm not sure of.
I mean they need someone to keep them company while they're getting treatment. They just being good teammates and inclusive
Thank you for correcting me, I was in the belief that if you aren't registered (regardless of who you are) you are eligible to leave.
Surely Barca legal team will find a loophole around it where they still own the player without him actually playing for them. That’s what I believe anyways
I don’t think he’s eager to trigger that clause himself. His agent just reiterated that on the back of Barcelona losing their court appeal:
“I can announce that the decision made by Dani is to STAY at Barcelona. We are not considering any other option or club, Dani Olmo wants to play for Barça and his desire is very clear”.
So, are we going to take a look?
Probably go to City or Arsenal.
What's this fella actually like? Worth a 6 month loan as a stopgap?
This is frustrating me now.
Have I repeated some obvious question being asked all day?
Yeah I'm sure we're a really appealing option to players from top clubs right now.