Copa America 2024 - Argentina Win

dan1509 said:
It really isnt. The euro is way harder to win, so winning two euros and a world cup back to back is incrredible.

Argentina just won a copa america playing Ecuador Canada and Colombia. Spain played harder teams in the euro group stage alone, nevermind then having to play Germany, France and England
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Who did Colombia need to beat to get to the final?

then remind us who England had to beat to get to the Euro final please

always amazes me the snobbery from people who’re more fond of a tournament where the likes of Scotland, Georgia and Slovenia can get there.
 
dan1509 said:
It really isnt. The euro is way harder to win, so winning two euros and a world cup back to back is incrredible.

Argentina just won a copa america playing Ecuador Canada and Colombia. Spain played harder teams in the euro group stage alone, nevermind then having to play Germany, France and England
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Doesnt matter. They can only beat what's in front of them and they won it all.

And Copa isn't all that easy anyway. Colombia and Uruguay would have smashed that Dutch team that made it to the semis.
 
Scarlett Dracarys said:
Everyone can go to sleep now
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And that’s that for football for a bit. Some beach vacation time in Isle of Palms, and then back to reality of the league come middle of August for the 90minutes of panic every Saturday.
 
Joel Miller said:
Who did Colombia need to beat to get to the final?

then remind us who England had to beat to get to the Euro final please

always amazes me the snobbery from people who’re more fond of a tournament where the likes of Scotland, Georgia and Slovenia can get there.
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I've come to expect it. Same people who point to goal-scoring records against the likes of the Faroe Islands and San Marino.
 
Carolina Red said:
Licha and Romero were an absolute unit tonight
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Have been for the entire tournament tbf. Argentina didn't concede a single goal this tournament when Licha was on the pitch. The only goal they conceded was when Licha was substituted. Pretty phenomenal and shows why he's so important for us.
 
dan1509 said:
It really isnt. The euro is way harder to win, so winning two euros and a world cup back to back is incrredible.

Argentina just won a copa america playing Ecuador Canada and Colombia. Spain played harder teams in the euro group stage alone, nevermind then having to play Germany, France and England
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Yeah England had such an incredibly tough run in this Euros
 
saik said:
Have been for the entire tournament tbf. Argentina didn't concede a single goal this tournament when Licha was on the pitch. The only goal they conceded was when Licha was substituted. Pretty phenomenal and shows why he's so important for us.
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I did not realize that!

Too bad Romero is at Spurs with Levy
 
Pronewbie said:
The refereeing is such a joke. Then again the South Americans genuinely celebrate and appreciate such shithousery.
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I thought the Brazilian ref did a very good job. Fair and competent, managed to keep things calm enough and flowing despite the high ignition levels among some of the players. Only negative for me is he should have carded Borja at the end there, but then again, it allowed the situation to peter out without any ugly scenes.

Congrats to Colombia for a good game and a good championship, and to Argentina for winning another championship. Some great camaradery in that squad, it’s evident Scaloni has achieved something special together with that lot.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Three major trophies in a row for both. It’s your issue if you didn’t understand the fact being stated.
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Fact being stated? He said this Argentina side is in contention for being the greatest national side ever alongside Spain 2008-14. Go clean your ears.
 
Redplane said:
Uruguay and Columbia aren't much better.

I like how folks claim European bias or superiority complex but then imply their teams would walk the Euros. Both have 4-5 teams that are quite good and neither would waltz thru each other fields.
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Colombia have been quality to be fair. Was on a long unbeaten run before obviously losing in ET.
 
Redplane said:
Uruguay and Columbia aren't much better.
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They are.

Uruguay have beaten Argentina at their home recently, shutting them down entirely, looked great in the qualifiers and done well here

Colombia have been terrific, they play with so much pace and aggression, see their recent record or the game against Brazil where they were unlucky not to have won by a comfortable margin

Dutch OTOH are awful on the ball and against the press of these teams they would have no hope.
 
Redplane said:
Uruguay and Columbia aren't much better.

I like how folks claim European bias or superiority complex but then imply their teams would walk the Euros. Both have 4-5 teams that are quite good and neither would waltz thru each other fields.
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Eloratings has Colombia 3rd and Uruguay 6th. England 7th, the Netherlands 8th.

Colombia lost today a 28 game undefeated run. Beating Germany and Spain on the process.

I haven't seen anyone saying that this teams would walk the Euros. Quite the opposite.
 
Wing Attack Plan R said:
Tough on the Colombians, they started fast and really took the game to Argentina in the first half. Probably contributed to their energy levels dropping in extra time. Going to pens would have been fair, I think Colombia were probably the better side.
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That's why it's a good thing Copa doesn't have ET except for the final. Argentina and Brazil can sub like for like for the most part, while the other teams start falling apart rather quickly with fatigue and injuries.

I mentioned at one point in the second half Colombia were withering away. I didn't expect them to score at all at that point so it was a matter of time until fresh legs killed them off.
 
Kammy26 said:
Fact being stated? He said this Argentina side is in contention for being the greatest national side ever alongside Spain 2008-14. Go clean your ears.
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If it makes you feel better, neither is. Both achieved the same though.
 
Kammy26 said:
Fact being stated? He said this Argentina side is in contention for being the greatest national side ever alongside Spain 2008-14. Go clean your ears.
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Oh jokes on me then. I must have shut it before that.
 
Happy for Di María. I had high hopes for him being LvGs Robben, that didn't go well.

Was desperately unfortunate early in his international career and, like Messi, seemed like it would never come together. Good on them, some players you just knows it means the absolute world to them and when they have the skill and talent to go with it, you want to see them getting there.
 
Tony247 said:
What a difference it makes to have a reliable striker in your team.
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Yups, goes a long way to explain the difference between 1st and 2nd/3rd/4th.

Colombia struggle to score unless it's Panama. David is average. Nuñez was a disaster and it took a legless 37 year-old Suárez 60 minutes to hit the post vs Colombia and equalise against Canada.
 
Redplane said:
Uruguay and Columbia aren't much better.

I like how folks claim European bias or superiority complex but then imply their teams would walk the Euros. Both have 4-5 teams that are quite good and neither would waltz thru each other fields.
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This “European teams are significantly better” narrative is so boring. Below is what happened to European superpowers in the previous World Cup:

Germany: lost to Japan, eliminated in the groups

Spain: lost to Japan in the groups, eliminated by Morocco in the 2nd round

Belgium: lost to Morocco, eliminated in the groups

Denmark: lost to Australia, drew with Tunisia, eliminated in the groups as the last team

Portugal: lost to South Korea and Morocco in the QFs

Netherlands: drew with Ecuador & lost to Argentina

Wales: lost to USA and drew with Iran ending the group as the last team

Poland: lost to Argentina and drew with Mexico

Serbia: lost to Brazil and drew with Cameroon eliminated in the groups as the last team

Switzerland: lost to Brazil

England: drew with USA

France: lost to Tunisia and Argentina

Croatia: lost to Argentina
 
Redplane said:
:lol: :lol:
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That post had me dying too. Besides Brazil and Argentina, none of the other comnebol teams every make any legitimate challenges at world cups, yet they still try so hard to convince us that its the hardest federation ever.

Krakenzero said:
Spain lost to Colombia recently.

If Euro is harder I'd imagine someone from there should have stopped Argentina in the WC.
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Are you really boasting about a friendly game victory where Spain played a B team?

The fact you are trying to argue that the Copa America is harder than the Euro is astonishing. This is a tournament that has been won by the same three teams 83% of the time. Using Argentina winning the world cup to prove Euro is not harder is a poor argument. It would be like if PSG won the champions league next season and then someone argued that ligue un is the worlds hardest league because PSG won the CL

Joel Miller said:
Who did Colombia need to beat to get to the final?

then remind us who England had to beat to get to the Euro final please

always amazes me the snobbery from people who’re more fond of a tournament where the likes of Scotland, Georgia and Slovenia can get there.
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Well the likes of Scotland, Georgia and Slovenia are better teams than Bolivia, Peru, and Venezeula.

The 5th best team in comnebol couldn't even beat New Zealand in a playoff match for the world cup. Canada just entered your tournament and went undefeated against half your federation.
 
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dan1509 said:
That post had me dying too. Besides Brazil and Argentina, none of the other comnebol teams every make any legitimate challenges at world cups, yet they still try so hard to convince us that its the hardest federation ever.
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In fairness, while the last World Cup wasn't a great performance for Conmebol (winners aside), in 2010 and 2018 4 out of 5 Conmebol qualifiers got past the Group Stage and in 2014 it was 5/5.

Europe, for all the "unfair World Cup quota" doesn't boast that sort of ratio.
 
Tried to stay up to watch this but gave up.

They should move this tournament to Europe next time and move the Euros over there. Let them South Americans experience real football for once.
 
antohan said:
Europe, for all the "unfair World Cup quota" doesn't boast that sort of ratio.
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This is just bs... We sometimes miss big teams, but that's not about the quota. When a big team misses the WC it is usually down to them playing crap that time and sometimes having a tough draw. We will now get more teams, but with the same qualifying format, we will still get some surprises... We'll still get some weak teams qualify, while better ones stay at home.

South America has a fairer qualifying system with the league format, where you always have time to make up for bad games.
 
Redplane said:
Uruguay and Columbia aren't much better.

I like how folks claim European bias or superiority complex but then imply their teams would walk the Euros. Both have 4-5 teams that are quite good and neither would waltz thru each other fields.
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For fecks sake my country’s name is COLOMBIA! Not Columbia
 
After various whiskeys and a call with the gf on which I promise her to take her to the World Cup finals regardless of what our NT does, here’s my opinion about the match.

Pretty close match, it was a game for ages, on the first 90 minutes each team got chances, but nobody was able to score. On extra time, it really noticed the quality or their bench vs ours, while they had freaking Lautaro on their bench, we had Santos Borre. They scored against us in a a play that left us speechless, but was of extreme quality.

Thanks to the boys, it was a good tournament for us, a country who only has one Copa and who’s best World Cup was achieving quarters. In believe on this team, and I hope we can reach semis on the next World Cup, and sooner than later win a CopanAmerica again. We are in transition, after that good generation of the 10s, and today it really noticed that we miss a number 9 in the mold of Falcao, but hopefully someone will appear.

Congratulations to Argentina, you are fair champions, and thank you to James, Lucho and all the boys, you made us proud.

Ps. If you are going to talk about my country at least take into account that the name’s Colombia not Columbia!!!
 
Didn't realise the final went to extra time.

Colombia the South American version of England. So much talent but can't quite translate it into trophies like Chile and Uruguay in last 20 years.
 
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