Copa America 2024 - Argentina Win

It seems like they were trying to make Endrick the focal point of everything they did, which just seems strange to me.

Esteveo has a better goal involvement record for Palmeiras, and he isn’t ready to be the focus of the Senior Brazil team either. Surely they had additional options?

underwhelming.
 
Best goalie in the world can’t save them all. Back to the league for Becker and another stellar season.
Best goalie in the world for Liverpool maybe. He's always been shit for Brazil.
 
Hope Brazil improve, I don't have any particular fondness for them but seeing them so far from glory doesn't feel right.
 
I don't think the Brasilian coach will survive another day
 
I don't understand Copa America footballing culture

On one hand, you have teams like Brazil, Argentina etc who have, and continued to play or try their best to play scintilating, flair based exciting football, even when they dont have the personnel to pull it off.

You have Uruguay who sometimes fit that category too, Chile sometimes etc.

Then, you have teams like Guatamela, Honduras and Colombia who, quite frankly, commit football terrorism sometimes. They literally go around the pitch kicking people, honestly sometimes it looks like for the sake of it.

Every Honduras and Guatamela match I've ever watched, I'm left in shock because some of the tackles that fly there are instant reds in Europe.

It's bizarrre.

What's even more bizarre is that you've seen Guatemala playing in the copa américa since they've never played it. And Honduras was only invited once in 2001.
 
Funny thing is, this is actually pretty tame for a Brazil vs Uruguay match
It was. Lots of niggly fouls, tactical fouls, only Nandez doing a homage tackle to ages gone by :lol:

I know some of Nunez’s finishing can be hilarious but he’s definitely a handful for defenders at times too.
I've no idea why Bielsa took him off, got the Brazilian backline camping 10 yards up from the halfway line.

It's more like watching France's.

2 #6's and a #8, all who are not very creative but are very physical and can run around a lot but don't have the quality on the other end of the pitch.
This is what I meant about Brazil lately @Carolina Red

Other Brazilian midfields would have players chasing shadows. The more modern ones respond to aggression and intensity with the same currency.

Looking at those teams there’s no favorite I’ll want to play. Brazil doesn’t create but got individual talent, Uruguay are extremely wasteful but doesn’t let the other team play. I think we can beat either of them, but had to play it carefully.
You guys are doing well and we will have Nandez suspended and seems like Araujo out. I still think it will be a tighter contest though, this Brazilian side sucks balls.
 
Not having extra time is a double-edged sword, especially for teams that want to go directly to penalties or, as happened to Argentina the other day, got equalized in extra time. Additionally, it has been like this in the Copa America for a while. Only the final has extra time.
 
I’d have preferred to see Canada get the winner of Brazil or Uruguay.

Canada actually has a shot at making the finals. The gave Argentina a good game and with better finishing they could have won the match or at the very least tied.

USA’s failure to make it out the groups looking even worse now

Not really, Argentina that game could have won 5 to 1, just Messi and Di Maria had between the two 5 clear cut chances facing alone the keeper that with those two means a goal each one of them
 
What an awful game of football.

@colombianmancunian - I really hope y’all take care of these guys
I favor our chances against them, Nuñez is just so wasteful, and Nandez basing our will certainly affect their defense. Is Araujo out due tu cumulative yellows? That also will aid us.

It will be a rough match, they will try to stop our transitions, but I have high hopes in us.
 
I favor our chances against them, Nuñez is just so wasteful, and Nandez basing our will certainly affect their defense. Is Araujo out due tu cumulative yellows? That also will aid us.

It will be a rough match, they will try to stop our transitions, but I have high hopes in us.

I always thought that Nandez it's the workhorse and handsome version of Rooney, cool player, I love the lad in Boca, he gaves 110% the whole time
 
I favor our chances against them, Nuñez is just so wasteful, and Nandez basing our will certainly affect their defense. Is Araujo out due tu cumulative yellows? That also will aid us.

It will be a rough match, they will try to stop our transitions, but I have high hopes in us.
Araújo came out injured and may not be ready. That's half our backline out and two key players for transition.

The moment he came out we immediately looked disjointed. More so because all Brazil had to do was foul Nico whenever he got the ball. Valverde is off, completely jaded.
 
Other Brazilian midfields would have players chasing shadows. The more modern ones respond to aggression and intensity with the same currency.
When was the last time this was true though? 1982?

The late 90s early 00s sides showed some real quality at times, thanks to the forwards, but otherwise...this isn't new. 2002 Brazil is remembered for the names, not for the football. '98 they had an awesome game against Denmark, but otherwise again the football was pretty drab. Mostly just give it to Ronaldo and let him do everything

Brazil have been like this for 3 decades now
 
When was the last time this was true though? 1982?

The late 90s early 00s sides showed some real quality at times, thanks to the forwards, but otherwise...this isn't new. 2002 Brazil is remembered for the names, not for the football. '98 they had an awesome game against Denmark, but otherwise again the football was pretty drab. Mostly just give it to Ronaldo and let him do everything

Brazil have been like this for 3 decades now
They've had "cabeças de bagre" since Dunga, yes, but you are referring to "forwards" where I see Rai, Juninho, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, etc as midfielders. Attacking ones, yes, but in a completely different league to the likes of Paqueta, for example.
 
They've had "cabeças de bagre" since Dunga, yes, but you are referring to "forwards" where I see Rai, Juninho, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Kaká, etc as midfielders. Attacking ones, yes, but in a completely different league to the likes of Paqueta, for example.
Even with those guys, the times Brazil actually imposed their class and outplayed their opponents vs the times they just dug down, won the physical battle and relied on a couple moments of brilliance to carry the day are still very heavily skewed towards the latter

The reality is that Brazil have been what they are now for 35 years. Sometimes with better/more magical players giving it a veneer of the great Brazil teams of yore, the ones that actually had teams chasing shadows on a regular basis. But it was always a passing thing
 
The game had 41 fouls. 26 by Uruguay
If you look closer, Uruguay's 26 were largely spread around, while the large majority of Brazil's 15 were on a single player.

One team was breaking down rhythm, the other was targeting a specific player to prevent any rhythm developing. It's essentially the same thing, just executed differently.