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This is like Souness saying "you expect 4 assists a game from a 100m player". He is obviously not going to play like that every game when so many of his teammates are well below par.
Players should be perfect though, didn't you know!? But yeh, I think when you read 'Bruno has many more poor performance than good last four years' it probably tells you all you need to know about a poster.
Within 30 seconds Mac Allister walked off him for header too.
I'll go with having watched the games myself, thanks. And to say he's had 'many more poor performance than good last four years' is ridiculous, with respect, and makes me think you've not been watching us.
People see matches in different ways though. Also they value things not in the same way, for some whining is a deal breaker, for some an assist outshines everything else. Some people consider a lobbed pass in behind magnifico, other people people consider a misplaced pass under no pressure on the halfway line a huge mistake. There is not one correct way to feel about things and thats something we should all remind ourselves when making a post. Some people will want to call him a legend, other people think he is the biggest hindrance towards us becoming a title contender. It's all just opinions about fecking football.
So let's just ignore all context then? Every top player at a mid table club should be responsible for dragging their average teammates to league titles otherwise they're not good enough in your book?
Sorry, but to say he's had more bad games than good over the past four years is ridiculous and an opinion that doesn't merit serious consideration.
Fair enough mate, but for me, that would tell me more about you than it says anything about Bruno. The statement is hyperbol. But if that irks you, you'd have to react on almost every post in here.
Eh?! What does it tell you about me? That I disagree with what is a patently nonsense opinion? Correct if so.
Yep, that's about the size of it! But to say he's been more bad than good for four years is another level of madness.
As if such piece of "comedy" couldn't be done from the other perspective as well.
It tells me that you think, that your opinion holds more value than other ones. And if you really think that, why would anybody want to debate with you - to feel inferior to you? You don't have to agree to an opinion, you know? You don't have to question peoples motives or intelligence about it.
Yeah well if you are working with labels such as anti-Bruno club and miserable, then I guess there isn't anything to talk about. The last time, such tones were around was when Ole was at the wheel. People were called miserable, talk was of negativity, everybody was a hater. And it took nothing than a sequence of really bad results for everybody to turn on him. It is as if people never learn, that conflict and different opinions aren't an attack on somebodies identity. But its not even that, that is the really funny thing about all of this - it is rather the obliviousness shown by some fans. Acting as if it is only "the other side" who holds agendas, is blinded by their bias's and feels triggered to respond.
Dude, you said yourself that the other poster was dealing in hyperbole. Surely you can't be too surprised that I scoff at it as a result...?
Scoff at opinions as much as you want. Just try to keep it sober and impersonal (not sure, whether thats the best translation, in german it is "sachlich" ^^ but the direct translation "factual" doesn't ring with me, as I am well aware that there is no such thing as objectivity and facts when we are talking about football fans opinions) and don't bring up intentions, limitation in knowledge or agendas into it. Call hyperbole out as hyperbole. It will end the discussion more quickly than assuming a hate campaign anyway.
A hate campaign?! I feel like you're taking all of this rather too seriously mate. I think you tend to your garden and I'll tend to mine.
Understatement really for this poster in this thread.
I am the one taking it too seriously?
You were the one who came in here after Brunos great game against Liverpool to talk about poster who were wrong the week before... This is exactly what I meant with my last posts. You are adressing personal stuff instead of the posts and you seem to be oblivious that you should take your own good advice.Why don't you put me on ignore if you have a problem with my posts? Its easier to jump next to somebody who is in an argument I guess, right?
Not sure about that one. Bruno at 31 is not what I would consider quick and both teams have good speed. I can see him coming off the bench and starting the odd game with maybe 65 min of playing time, however he wouldn't be wearing the armband and more a bit player. The reality is, United have no one else. They are stacked with old players post 30 at mid and that in itself is a major part of the problem.
He'd be starting for both
Decent post. One thing I will state, and this is fact, this is a poor team compared with other years. In fact the team Ole had was better. Is Bruno the only issue on this team? Certainly not. Is he part of the issue? Most definitely. As I have said prior, the standards have dropped at Manchester United. Bruno is a decent player, but at 31 not a player you build a team around. There are too many things at this stage of his career that are starting to dwindle. That is fact and not opinion. Talk about work rate all you want, but he who is everywhere is nowhere. Tomorrow will be an interesting test. Will this team over or underachieve? I am hoping for the former, yet expecting the latter.
I wouldn't say he is faster than either. Its not as much about the age in years as it is in what the body can handle through those years. Bruno is slight, Salah is a bit of a beast, VVD is a large body and Robertson is a Scottie, tough to the bone. I would take any of those players over Fernandes. They all have sandpaper and can be impact players. Hence why Liverpool is where they are. I am saying this biting my tongue btw.
Its an opinion man, I disagree. Is he fit, sure he is, but he rarely runs flat out and has no pull away power. Is he as good as either yes, is he better, not in my opinion. So would they spend the dough to sign him, no way. That says it all.
This discussion is about whether he would get in their team, not whether they would buy him, he would get in their team if he was already there but they wouldn't buy him
