Fair enough mate, but for me, that would tell me more about you than it says anything about Bruno. The statement is hyperbol. But if that irks you, you'd have to react on almost every post in here.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 37
- Goals
- 7
- Assists
- 13
- Yellow cards
- 8
- Red cards
- 3
To be fair, it all makes sense when you learn the Bruno Out Club's Rating System™. Behold!
Bruno was MOTM
"Good game from him but..."
Bruno was one of our best performers in a comfortable win
"Decent enough but..."
Literally any other performance
"Awful! We shouldn't have given him a new contract! We can never win the league with him in the team!"
Eh?! What does it tell you about me? That I disagree with what is a patently nonsense opinion? Correct if so.
Yep, that's about the size of it! But to say he's been more bad than good for four years is another level of madness.
Even when we do play well, the anti-Bruno club are being miserable wums. Your posts are self-referential.
As if such piece of "comedy" couldn't be done from the other perspective as well.
after a good game
"Look, a good game, let me look for the Bruno is a legend-thread".
after an average game
"well he was still probably the 2nd best player on the pitch, look at his keypasses and how much he ran around. If his team mates would be better, we wouldn't have drawn 0:0 to a bottom-table-club"
after a bad game
"wasn't great but given that he is never injured and always works his socks off, he should be forgiven. definitely the best player in the last 5 years"
It tells me that you think, that your opinion holds more value than other ones. And if you really think that, why would anybody want to debate with you - to feel inferior to you? You don't have to agree to an opinion, you know? You don't have to question peoples motives or intelligence about it.
Yeah well if you are working with labels such as anti-Bruno club and miserable, then I guess there isn't anything to talk about. The last time, such tones were around was when Ole was at the wheel. People were called miserable, talk was of negativity, everybody was a hater. And it took nothing than a sequence of really bad results for everybody to turn on him. It is as if people never learn, that conflict and different opinions aren't an attack on somebodies identity. But its not even that, that is the really funny thing about all of this - it is rather the obliviousness shown by some fans. Acting as if it is only "the other side" who holds agendas, is blinded by their bias's and feels triggered to respond.
Dude, you said yourself that the other poster was dealing in hyperbole. Surely you can't be too surprised that I scoff at it as a result...?
Scoff at opinions as much as you want. Just try to keep it sober and impersonal (not sure, whether thats the best translation, in german it is "sachlich" ^^ but the direct translation "factual" doesn't ring with me, as I am well aware that there is no such thing as objectivity and facts when we are talking about football fans opinions) and don't bring up intentions, limitation in knowledge or agendas into it. Call hyperbole out as hyperbole. It will end the discussion more quickly than assuming a hate campaign anyway.
A hate campaign?! I feel like you're taking all of this rather too seriously mate. I think you tend to your garden and I'll tend to mine.
Understatement really for this poster in this thread.
I can comfortably say that Bruno would be good enough in Liverpool & arsenal starting XI right now.
I am the one taking it too seriously?
You were the one who came in here after Brunos great game against Liverpool to talk about poster who were wrong the week before... This is exactly what I meant with my last posts. You are adressing personal stuff instead of the posts and you seem to be oblivious that you should take your own good advice.And yes, when critics motives are questioned, agendas are assumed and cluelessness gets attested, then one could come to the conclusion that there is no interest in a normal debate. Being fecked up with hyperbole and BS arguments is completely understandable, but fighting fire with fire doesn't make sense. Will only make sure that you'll have to complain about negativity and crazy posts after the next bad game. Or could it be that this is what you enjoy?
Why don't you put me on ignore if you have a problem with my posts? Its easier to jump next to somebody who is in an argument I guess, right?
Not sure about that one. Bruno at 31 is not what I would consider quick and both teams have good speed. I can see him coming off the bench and starting the odd game with maybe 65 min of playing time, however he wouldn't be wearing the armband and more a bit player. The reality is, United have no one else. They are stacked with old players post 30 at mid and that in itself is a major part of the problem.
He'd be starting for both
Decent post. One thing I will state, and this is fact, this is a poor team compared with other years. In fact the team Ole had was better. Is Bruno the only issue on this team? Certainly not. Is he part of the issue? Most definitely. As I have said prior, the standards have dropped at Manchester United. Bruno is a decent player, but at 31 not a player you build a team around. There are too many things at this stage of his career that are starting to dwindle. That is fact and not opinion. Talk about work rate all you want, but he who is everywhere is nowhere. Tomorrow will be an interesting test. Will this team over or underachieve? I am hoping for the former, yet expecting the latter.
Current Bruno isn’t slower than Odegaard and Curtis Jones. So in term of speed, Bruno shouldn’t have problem to start in both teams if both teams have no problem with Odegaard and Curtis Jones starting. In term of age, the likes of Salah (2 years older), van dijk (3 years older), and Robertson (few months older) are currently starting for Liverpool so that means Bruno’s current age shouldn’t be an issue for him to start in Liverpool team.
He won’t wear the armband at Liverpool but he doesn’t need the armband to start because regardless he would start over Curtis Jones or Szoboszlai based on current level. And he would also start over Odegaard based on current level. Bruno would be good enough in Liverpool & arsenal starting XI right now.
I wouldn't say he is faster than either. Its not as much about the age in years as it is in what the body can handle through those years. Bruno is slight, Salah is a bit of a beast, VVD is a large body and Robertson is a Scottie, tough to the bone. I would take any of those players over Fernandes. They all have sandpaper and can be impact players. Hence why Liverpool is where they are. I am saying this biting my tongue btw.
Its an opinion man, but if either team wants him, they can certainly pony up 60 mil he is apparently worth and give some transfer breathing room. Heck, I would bargain him out for 50 mil. The team needs a change of direction.
That’s the point isn’t it? He’s not faster and he’s not slower than Odegaard and Curtis Jones. So that means Bruno’s current speed wouldn’t be an issue of him get into their starting XI. But you said he won’t make it to XI because of that.
Bruno is one of the most fittest player out there right now.
You’re replying my post about Bruno would get into their starting XI. Whether the team needs a change of direction by selling Bruno is irrelevant to Bruno is currently better no 10 or attacking midfielder than Odegaard and Curtis Jones, therefore he would get into their starting XI.
Its an opinion man, I disagree. Is he fit, sure he is, but he rarely runs flat out and has no pull away power. Is he as good as either yes, is he better, not in my opinion. So would they spend the dough to sign him, no way. That says it all.
This discussion is about whether he would get in their team, not whether they would buy him, he would get in their team if he was already there but they wouldn't buy him
Like what @Red in STL mentioned, the discussion is about whether he would get in their starting XI, not whether they would buy him from their rival. If Bruno already at Liverpool or arsenal now, he would get into their starting XI over Curtis Jones & Odegaard.
If you replied to me saying ‘’I disagree’’ full stop and that’s it. I wouldn’t need to question it because it’s based on your opinion without bias reasons. The issue is that you started mentioning his age (which doesn’t matter since the likes of Robertson, Salah, and van Dijk are older than him), his speed (which is wrong because Bruno isn’t slower than Odegaard & Jones) and Robertson being Scottie, tough to the bone (which is very ridiculous reason).
Arsenal 1:1 Man Utd
New
World class finish, some people might think it was a simple chance but if you look at it properly he had to bend that around the defender. Bruno's gotta keep it up, been brilliant the last 2 games against top opposition
Has his faults but he's crucial for us when we play well. To even think some want him gone is truly mind boggling.
Not an easy finish that.
I can only assume his cool down will be running a marathon.
He has 3 lungs.
True leader today.
This guy is an ultra marathon runner combined with a great player. His fitness is actually unreal.
I thought he was fantastic today. Clearly pissed off with the ref, and I don't blame him. But, he stood up when we needed him. Very happy for him.
Bobbled up at him nastily too. Needs to take Maguire to one side and teach him that technique.
feck the haters, brilliant player who has been unfortunate to have played under a few shit managers but he's playing his best stuff since Amorim has come in, and haven't thought of him as a wasteful through ball spammer once. Amazing what some instructions can do eh..
This is one of the games im citing when the anti bruno brigade lose their shit when bruno complains to mainoo for a misplaced pass again, or when he raises his arms and rolleyes to the ref
Never stopped running and what a finish. A great game despite us being on the back foot for most of the game.
A good finish from a terrible pass.
Very surprised he didn’t get sent of. Needs to keep his cool. Captains should be showing example to the rest of the team. He isn’t
Ironman
WTF?!
Legend.
Like Roy Keane? The man who got 13 red cards?