[SilentWitness]

It’s not strange at all, in context. We’re a massive club who’s gone through a grim few years while Bruno’s been in the team. The fact he’s been by far our best player is why he’s been getting acclaim but the fact he’s an eye catching part of a team that so consistently pisses the fans off means he’s also getting a load of abuse. Amplified by the fact he’s the captain and an emotional guys whose body language and theatrics can be annoying at the best of times. Plus you have to remember that the more extreme abuse gets is coming, with all due respect, from the more clueless elements of our fanbase.

We will have to agree to disagree. There are people on both sides of the debate who are objectively good FF posters.

 

[SSSSnake]

The mindless spammer that is Bruno...

Tackles + interceptions per 90:
Bruno: 2.9
Ødegaard: 1.2
Palmer: 1.1
De Bruyne: 0.8

Dispossessed + unsuccessful touches per 90 (the lower the better, obviously):
De Bruyne: 2.4
Bruno: 2.5
Palmer: 2.8
Ødegaard: 3.1

And for the sake of balance I've included the two stats Bruno is "poor" at:

Dribbles per 90 (Bruno gets fouled more than De Bruyne and Ødegaard by the way...):
Palmer: 1.3
Ødegaard: 1.1
Bruno: 0.8
De Bruyne: 0.6

Average pass accuracy (Bruno loses several percent from all the set pieces by the way):
Ødegaard: 87.6%
De Bruyne: 83:9%
Palmer: 80.8%
Bruno: 80.3%

He really is all action. Good stats btw i just wish we had two of him to rotate in and out of the squad.

 

[Pickle85]

It’s not strange at all, in context. We’re a massive club who’s gone through a grim few years while Bruno’s been in the team. The fact he’s been by far our best player is why he’s been getting acclaim but the fact he’s an eye catching part of a team that so consistently pisses the fans off means he’s also getting a load of abuse. Amplified by the fact he’s the captain and an emotional guys whose body language and theatrics can be annoying at the best of times. Plus you have to remember that the more extreme abuse gets is coming, with all due respect, from the more clueless elements of our fanbase.

I think this is spot on. Bruno is a lightning rod for criticism as he's the most high-profile and important player in one of the worst united teams in the last twenty years. There are things he could be better at (as with all players) but there are also signs that these are areas that he's improving with a) better coaching b) better coached players around him and a more clearly defined system and c) less pressure seemingly being placed on him to force something as a difference maker.

 

[Slevs]

Why does this image look like an optical illusion

He hit the ball with his right leg. Donno what you call that move but its when you plant your weaker leg next to the ball and swing your stronger leg around the weaker leg and hit the ball.
Ronaldo had a cross like that to RvN one time, was excellent.

 

[Jacob]

There's no question about his talent, it's the mental side, consistency and application you can question.

 

[Eplel]

The mindless spammer that is Bruno...

Tackles + interceptions per 90:
Bruno: 2.9
Ødegaard: 1.2
Palmer: 1.1
De Bruyne: 0.8

Dispossessed + unsuccessful touches per 90 (the lower the better, obviously):
De Bruyne: 2.4
Bruno: 2.5
Palmer: 2.8
Ødegaard: 3.1

And for the sake of balance I've included the two stats Bruno is "poor" at:

Dribbles per 90 (Bruno gets fouled more than De Bruyne and Ødegaard by the way...):
Palmer: 1.3
Ødegaard: 1.1
Bruno: 0.8
De Bruyne: 0.6

Average pass accuracy (Bruno loses several percent from all the set pieces by the way):
Ødegaard: 87.6%
De Bruyne: 83:9%
Palmer: 80.8%
Bruno: 80.3%

What are you doing mate, coming in this argument with facts and data? You're gonna force these poor wums to come up with new false arguments now?

 

[NinjaZombie]

He hit the ball with his right leg. Donno what you call that move but its when you plant your weaker leg next to the ball and swing your stronger leg around the weaker leg and hit the ball.
Ronaldo had a cross like that to RvN one time, was excellent.

The Rabona.

 

[Vidyoyo]

He hit the ball with his right leg. Donno what you call that move but its when you plant your weaker leg next to the ball and swing your stronger leg around the weaker leg and hit the ball.
Ronaldo had a cross like that to RvN one time, was excellent.

Oh right, yeah that's what it looks like but I didn't see it in real time so thanks for clearing it up

 

[NZT-One]

I should caveat that with the spam is those 'risky' passes or pot shots. He has a lot of shots with little to show for it. First half rabona or the trivela passes over and over. He can't help himself.

Maybe I'm wrong but looking through the thread there are plenty of United fans that think the same in terms of questioning his ability to be part of a consistent team during a season which controls games and that he is a spammer/volume creator type.

Everybody who criticizes him is either clueless or a hater in the eyes of his most vocal fans on here. Don't fight it, there is nothing to win.

To your points, if the last match is the start of a trend, then great and we will gladly keep him the team (lets face it, with the new contract, he isn't going anywhere anyway) and get really good performances from him. But regardless of how well he played on the weekend, a well run club needs to plan ahead and keep players age in mind. Again IF this is the beginning of a trend then great, the need to add something to squad in his position isn't as big as many of us thought until, well last Saturday, but given how important the position is, will have to be adressed rather sooner than later.

It’s not strange at all, in context. We’re a massive club who’s gone through a grim few years while Bruno’s been in the team. The fact he’s been by far our best player is why he’s been getting acclaim but the fact he’s an eye catching part of a team that so consistently pisses the fans off means he’s also getting a load of abuse. Amplified by the fact he’s the captain and an emotional guys whose body language and theatrics can be annoying at the best of times. Plus you have to remember that the more extreme abuse gets is coming, with all due respect, from the more clueless elements of our fanbase.

Thank god you added the thing with the respect

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Everybody who criticizes him is either clueless or a hater in the eyes of his most vocal fans on here. Don't fight it, there is nothing to win.

To your points, if the last match is the start of a trend, then great and we will gladly keep him the team (lets face it, with the new contract, he isn't going anywhere anyway) and get really good performances from him. But regardless of how well he played on the weekend, a well run club needs to plan ahead and keep players age in mind. Again IF this is the beginning of a trend then great, the need to add something to squad in his position isn't as big as many of us thought until, well last Saturday, but given how important the position is, will have to be adressed rather sooner than later.



Thank god you added the thing with the respect

If you honestly think the game against Liverpool was the one and only time he's played that well this season (never mind ever) well then... if the cap fits...

 

[Shimo]

Liked that he talked about how he needed to take more responsibility in the first half to not play some of the passes in certain phases of the game in order to retain better control and not give teams opportunities to break.

Team will feed off Bruno, if he is helter skelter, they will be as well, when he is in control, team will follow suit and maybe with Amorin demanding more control in games, he finally realizes his importance to it.

 

[NZT-One]

If you honestly think the game against Liverpool was the one and only time he's played that well this season (never mind ever) well then... if the cap fits...

I honestly think he didn't play this good for quite a while. He was good in the FA Cup final, but it was a good Bruno performance in terms of what we know of him. Against Liverpool, he showed elements to his game and a level of calm and that in a high-pressure environment. That is a new high for me. I don't know what it means, maybe our plan just worked really well. Maybe Pools plan backfired. Maybe we raised our game due to the occasion. Lets see how it goes forward. And when he keeps that level of team play, calm head, I'll be the last to criticize him, but I think it is disingenious to suggest that this was just another good game in long list of recent good games. It wasn't. The last bad game isn't even 2 weeks in the past.

Lets face it, we'll never agree on the exact extent of "how good was he", but I think it is a bit laughable to suggest, that this can tell you something about whatever clues I might have or what my intentions I have when posting. And this applies to every poster on here.

 

[NZT-One]

Liked that he talked about how he needed to take more responsibility in the first half to not play some of the passes in certain phases of the game in order to retain better control and not give teams opportunities to break.

Team will feed off Bruno, if he is helter skelter, they will be as well, when he is in control, team will follow suit and maybe with Amorin demanding more control in games, he finally realizes his importance to it.

Well said. I am pretty sure, this is what everybody hopes for. Difference between posters is the level of believe they have that he will reach that objective.

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Look at that, another post, another proof for my obvious hate campaign within this thread.

 

[Red in STL]

It’s not strange at all, in context. We’re a massive club who’s gone through a grim few years while Bruno’s been in the team. The fact he’s been by far our best player is why he’s been getting acclaim but the fact he’s an eye catching part of a team that so consistently pisses the fans off means he’s also getting a load of abuse. Amplified by the fact he’s the captain and an emotional guys whose body language and theatrics can be annoying at the best of times. Plus you have to remember that the more extreme abuse gets is coming, with all due respect, from the more clueless elements of our fanbase.

Unfortunately that seems to be a large %

 

[Eplel]

Everybody who criticizes him is either clueless or a hater in the eyes of his most vocal fans on here. Don't fight it, there is nothing to win.

Are you the one crying like a little girl here cause people praised one of his assists last year because you are convinced it was by mistake?

 

[Lyng]

This video is a fantastic breakdown on how fantastic Bruno is and how he really unlocked our team against Liverpool.
I have to warn that if you really dislike Bruno you will not like this video, if you hate Højlund as well you will most likely despise it.

 

[NZT-One]

Are you the one crying like a little girl here cause people praised one of his assists last year because you are convinced it was by mistake?

I remember debating such a topic but I can't find which game it was... It wasn't the FA Cup game with Brunos assist to Mainoo. From the back of my mind I'd say it was a McTominay goal but not sure. Can you remember which goal it was?