Or Option E in Today's Tory Fantasy Land (trademark pending), according to Nick Timothy the Republic should just leave the custom union and bish bash problemo solved.
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Or Option E in Today's Tory Fantasy Land (trademark pending), according to Nick Timothy the Republic should just leave the custom union and bish bash problemo solved.
I forget. What is the beef with the border in the sea rather than physically on land.
I can't. It knots me.
Because it splits NI from the rest of the UK
Cause the DUP sed so.
They dont want to be seperated from the rest of the Union (except when they do).
I reckon if May hadn't called that GE and ended up relying on the DUP this would have been the compromise. But DUP can't accept it and they have disproportionate power.
If brexit has shown anything it’s that England doesn’t really give a shit about the union, it’s England first. So why shouldn’t the scots get another ref?
Christ above.
I think the parliamentary maths might still have ruled it out. There are quite a few English unionists in the Conservative party (a majority even) who have an ideological problem with dividing the union internally. I believe Theresa May herself thinks this - she voted against Welsh devolution for example, even after the referendum in favour of it, ironically.
I also think the SNP would also have kicked off if the perception was NI was being allowed to stay partially in the EU, and Scotland was not.
They already voted, a second referendum wouldn't be democratic.
never gets old...The SNP are waiting for the best moment to call for one, ie when they think they'll win. They got one last time of course, I'm sure they'll get another in time if they clearly want one, Britain isn't Spain
.Wonder why he achieved zilch in 2 years. Clown.
They’ve been spouting that shite in the media for 2 weeks. Nigel farage has been trying it too. But Ireland wants to stay in the Eu (last public poll was nearly 90% pro Europe) so that shites a non-runner and they’re embarrassing themselves by suggesting it
Companies are paying him a fortune to be a consultant.
Perhaps he should sit down in a dark room and reflect . Ask himself which is the only country of the EU28 preparing to stockpile food and medicines.
You've got a fair point there. When people are taking about how the EU will do this or do that, do they ever specify who they are taking about? You have the individual countries, them you have the EU government. They are all different entities with their own needs, agendas, problems...
This is the hopium the government are operating with due to the agreed withdrawal agreement being so abysmal it will never pass. I do not believe the EU will ever reopen the agreement to make the legally binding changes that are required for it to get through.
Essentially they don't have a choice but to believe the EU will agree to change it though as the alternatives are no deal, or no Brexit, and Corbyn probably sauntering in to number 10 shortly afterwards.
May is trying to bribe Labour MPs it seems to drum up some extra support. I wonder if she might get something non legally binding again, not in the agreement text and try to force that through with her original deal as a last desperate attempt.
He'd still call that scaremongering.
Quite.
Furthermore the EU27 have no need to stockpile food or medicines because the frictionless borders with all other member states will remain open. Without a deal there will be no frictionless border between the UK and any other country.
Scaremongering in Brexiters language usually means hard facts that they're allergic to.
That would be out of our control though, this isn't.
IMO Irish politicians are thinking if there is a hard Brexit then it will trigger a border poll and they can then let the public decide what's next.
It's not EU laws that requires it but WTO rules.
I would love to have a debate with JRM, Farage and Davis, completely wipe out all their arguments so easily.
Because it would place NI outside of the rest of the UK which would not be tolerated by Parliament.
Having read a lot of your posts on this subject I am confident that you would do exactly that.
Would make a brilliant Question Time.
I can just picture Farage with his mouth moving but no words coming out...
On the condition that they were forced to answer the questions. A lie detector connected to each of them would be an added bonus.
Ah yeah, thanks guys. Seemed a convenient fudge to me, but yeah, the DUP are obviously intransigent sods.
No objections on my part (in fact they should escape the madhouse if they can), I am just thinking it through from the point of view of the government in Westminster.
Bit harsh.
Why would English people not put their country first.
Personally, I gave no thought to Wales or Scotland or N Ireland when I voted and I am pretty sure that they voted thinking of themselves first.
Did Scots not do the same in their own referendum.
There's a lot of nuance there actually: https://tradebetablog.wordpress.com...o-require-countries-to-control-their-borders/
Where Ireland would come up against EU rules if it tried to avoid a border is the new Union Customs Code (UCC), which governs the customs regulations and implementation by EU member states. This requires member states to apply a number of precise border controls, data collection and centralised data sharing to certify imports as qualifying for the 'free circulation of goods', among a bazillion other things.
RedCafe, come for the football, stay for the international customs law discussion.
Give one of them a buzz on LBC!
So it isn't just a case of two different regulatory requirements so there has to be a border?
There are no nuances, without an agreement and without customs control both the EU and the UK are open to every other markets under the most-favoured nation rule. It's not even a debate to make.
Any remainers moved to europe since 2016?
You misunderstand me. The EU would not have to wait for some lengthy two year MFN disputes process at the WTO to compel Ireland to enforce its external EU border like you implied. The EU has its own customs regulations (the UCC) which it would enforce.
I didn't imply anything.
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What were you trying to say about WTO and Ireland then? It is EU law that explicitly requires the enforcement of an external border (in very specific ways), and WTO rules in a very loose implicit kind of way.
I moved back to Ireland. Why?