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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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What benefits do you see in this? How do you see your life improving post no deal Brexit?

It's obvious. The EU don't want it more than Parliament. Hitting them with no deal will force them to negotiate responsibly, but if people here are saying that "no deal is not an option, they can sit back and mock us.
 
Whilst part of me would like to see the mental gymnastics on display when everything is absolutely fecked and the Brexiters are trying to explain why it was a good idea I'd much rather sense prevailing and it be revoked.

I think if May survives, I feel she will, the VoNC, she will have to push for it as for the option.
 
I think the EU will now concede just enough to get the deal just over the line in the next vote, and it will be a soft brexit. They will then consider the process a victory for them.
 
Why do Labour keep harping on about renegotiating a deal when the EU have said about 17.1 million times that the deal on offer will not be renegotiated?
 
It's obvious. The EU don't want it more than Parliament. Hitting them with no deal will force them to negotiate responsibly, but if people here are saying that "no deal is not an option, they can sit back and mock us.

It's like throwing a grape at the onrushing truck and thinking 'This will show that truck'
 
Can someone fill me in on the details of what this means? I know shit about politics
 
What the DUP really meant...

"After realising that no government will ever be desperate enough to entertain us in the future, and, that we'll never get a chance to push our lunatic, stone-age agenda on a serious platform ever again, we will support the government in confidence vote". Ends
 
Why do Labour keep harping on about renegotiating a deal when the EU have said about 17.1 million times that the deal on offer will not be renegotiated?
I’m no expert but it might be because the leader is a bit of a plum.
 
Why do Labour keep harping on about renegotiating a deal when the EU have said about 17.1 million times that the deal on offer will not be renegotiated?

That's the current deal, Labour are talking about a new withdrawal agreement following a GE which the EU are open to discussing.

I still think the EU will renegotiate the current deal if we can say what we actually want and what will pass but that doesn't look likely
 
Because it's easier than taking an achievable position... That and Corbyn is useless

Oh really? What should he be doing then? Bearing in mind that the change needed in this country requires and electable Labour party and almost 50% of their base is dead set on BREXIT. What should he do? Exactly.
 
Thought Boris was a Brexiteer .Why would he want May to go back and negotiate.
 
Have I understood Boris as saying we can negotiate a deal than go all out Brixit?
 


Tusk and I on the same wavelength. Out on the vote by 1 though.
 
I’m no expert but it might be because the leader is a bit of a plum.

yeah because negotiations wouldn't be at all different with an entirely different team of negotiators with a different philosophy.

Jesus, billionaires have really paid enough money to convince people in the UK that they need to be ruled over by a bent headmaster with a more acceptable accent. Grow a spine.
 
It's obvious. The EU don't want it more than Parliament. Hitting them with no deal will force them to negotiate responsibly, but if people here are saying that "no deal is not an option, they can sit back and mock us.
I just want to preface this by saying I respect your opinion, and I genuinely just want to be educated. Can you answer the following my friend?

Why would the EU not want 'no deal' more than Parliament? I am curious, surely a body of 27 countries = more equipped to deal with this than 1?
How are they negotiating irresponsibly? They were never going to move their 4 primary principles for anyone, as that would be more damaging than a loss of revenue.

I repeat, I am here in peace, I don't quite understand this all. :)
 
No deal carnage here we come! Part of me is looking forward to seeing how bad this gets.
 
yeah because negotiations wouldn't be at all different with an entirely different team of negotiators with a different philosophy.

Jesus, billionaires have really paid enough money to convince people in the UK that they need to be ruled over by a bent headmaster with a more acceptable accent. Grow a spine.
You’re a nutcase. Pointing out Corbyn is incompetent doesn’t mean someone is a fecking Tory. Fecking pay attention for a change. The whole fecking lot of them are cnuts right now - including most of the labour MPs.
 
Oh really? What should he be doing then? Bearing in mind that the change needed in this country requires and electable Labour party and almost 50% of their base is dead set on BREXIT. What should he do? Exactly.
Some proof of this figure, please?
 
You’re a nutcase. Pointing out Corbyn is incompetent doesn’t mean someone is a fecking Tory. Fecking pay attention for a change. The whole fecking lot of them are cnuts right now - including most of the labour MPs.

Not what I said, at all. But please enlighten me on how Labour should seek power by doing anything different. Go ahead...
 
You're living in dreamland.

:lol:

I hope I am, because it's not what I want. In the end of the day, the EU know it's a bad deal, but when the're negotiating with a Parliament that is 75% in favour of remaining in the EU, and will not accept a no deal, they can start negotiations offering very little, and adjust it marginally in order to mostly get they want until the UK decides in the future to rejoin.

This whole scenario shows just how out of touch Parliament is with the electorate.
 
Its easy to judge history now but that's not the correct way to see things. You need to see things from his perspective. Tudor took a stable and respectable kingdom to the brink of civil war and invasion. Smallfolk were left dying on both sides (first Catholics, then Protestants under Mary, then Catholics again) and his dynasty ended after 1 generation. His crown ended up first to Mary, the very daughter of the woman he turned against then to Elizabeth the daughter of the woman he executed.

Regarding monasteries, I agree wholeheartedly and I assure you no one understand the injustice of a rich church in a poor country then I do. This situation survived in Malta well past medieval times, as the church and the British empire agreed not to step at each other toes. It was only after independence when Mintoff finally put the church in place and it was a fight him and his supporters (including my grandfather) had to fight for inch by inch and suffer a horde of injustices because of it. Yet, you also need to understand the times too. During the medieval times, that wealth could end up either to the church whom, with all its weaknesses, did care for the poor else it would end up in the hands of nobility who didn't share any love for the poor.

No, they didn't. Not at all. No. Nope, Nein. Noooope. never. BS. No, no, nope. no. Noooope. not.no? nonononono. nooooooooooo