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Right I've spent a good few minutes trying to figure out which letter, you'll have to fill me in
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Italian officials have stated that Brits who are officially resident in Italy on Brexit day will have their rights protected in the event of No Deal. Great news for some of us and much-welcome clarification.
http://www.britishinitaly.net/news/...bY4iDoxhI3F2rSVWsXug4jBtdJd9yRjKDvqGICkAcjrKU
http://www.britishinitaly.net/news/...bY4iDoxhI3F2rSVWsXug4jBtdJd9yRjKDvqGICkAcjrKU
Well the caf's crawling with namesakes, and half of them of feckwits, but anyway the clue is my saints day is the 25th.Right I've spent a good few minutes trying to figure out which letter, you'll have to fill me in
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Can anyone provide me some quick insight as to what could potentially happen/shifts to the UK by summer 2019? I am visiting family for a few weeks and will be in England, then visiting Scotland.
My quick assumption and understanding is that if Brexit continues to go ahead, then the transition period will be in full flow during summer 2019.
My quick assumption and understanding is that if Brexit continues to go ahead, then the transition period will be in full flow during summer 2019.
If the withdrawal agreement gets through Parliament in January, we'll be in the transition period by then. If it doesn't, there won't be a transition period, we'll just be out of Europe.
Your dollars will no doubt be worth more, whatever happens.
Cheers, much appreciated.
No. I'm still British and even if I wasn't I'm entitled to an opinion.
Thanks, that's kind of you. The Italians are the first to make an official declaration on the rights of Brits. We got our residency sorted out in the autumn, it took a couple of months so we're glad it's done. We'll be back there in a month and we'll sit tight and see what happens next!Great news for you and @oates an early Christmas present. Happy for you both.
Oh dear Jeremy... Must do better
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/brex...won-snap-election-says-jeremy-corbyn-11588568
What a stupid person he is
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/brex...won-snap-election-says-jeremy-corbyn-11588568
What a stupid person he is
Thanks @RedSky obviously it has been a stress for us and @Penna put a lot of work into sorting out our Residency so that has proved worthwhile. It's no secret we love our lives in Italy and felt it was at threat so quite probably ours have been selfish aims.Great news for you and @oates an early Christmas present. Happy for you both.
But it is still causing many others a great deal of worry and seems to have done little for our country but tear it apart and tear people apart, families and colleagues think differently, ours do too but we've found it best not to argue with them but at times we've found it hard to believe they held such different ideals. Whatever the outcome it will take a lot of time to overcome our differences.
This is a baffling take. People who leave Britain don't necessarily leave forever and so will still be invested in what happens back home. Especially when they'll almost certainly have family who will be badly affected by Brexit.
He'd be better off where he belongs in a local council meeting circa 1970.
He doesn't want to get into power does he?
Ugh.
4D chess right?
Don't forget that those of us living in the EU need the UK more than they need us.
He might be right about that...but the problem with such anti-EU arguments is that there's no consideration given as to how the UK would be able to successfully disentangle itself from that system. Ultimately cutting ourselves off economically from close European allies completely isn't particularly viable, as we're currently seeing, and again any complete break with the EU involves a hard border in Ireland...something that obviously isn't viable. Trying to push for the EU to adopt more left-wing stances on various issues is clearly a better approach, albeit a very difficult one. Although due to its size as an organisation, the EU isn't necessarily completely anti-worker and has plenty of protections and rules in place which benefit individuals as well.
Most of the anti-EU left-wing arguments don't really work because they're painfully outdated don't acknowledge that the times have moved on and that some things have changed for good. We're in a more globalised, more interconnected world and that's not going to change.
Like the students did on tuition fees, right?
You can vote on principle and get all high a mighty about it but if the reality is that just helps the greater of two evils then that's on you too.
The electoral system is an affront to democracy, I agree. But I think it's also true that people have been kidding themselves about Labour's outlook on the EU for a couple of years. It should've been obvious when Corbyn said article 50 should be triggered the day after the referendum.
Corbyn really is the worst thing to happen to Britain since the Brexit vote.
I think anyone that expected the Liberals to stand against tuition fees, even as junior coalition partners, has a right to think twice about whether to vote for them again, which many obviously have, and of course Clegg probably lost his job because of it.
The difference is that Corbyn isn't breaking a commitment, he promised Brexit all along, and still does, yet his supporters completely ignore that and will back him again.
Clegg was finished for breaking his commitment, the sooner Corbyn goes for upholding his the better.
Way to go against what the majority of people who voted you in want, Corbyn. It’s a stupid move and a bad one politically.
Its not labours fault that those people dont know what labour stand for.
They wanted an old school labour man in charge, they got him, why the surprise that he wants out of europe?
It doesn't get more directly democratic than a referendum though does it? including the one we had on changing the system. Also it is amazing how often the system people want to change to gives their political view more weight.
Weird, you literally just said the system forces people to choose the lesser of two evils and I agreed with you.
I'd largely given him the benefit of the doubt until now, viewing him as someone who was fairly anti-EU but understood the potentially disastrous consequences that leaving would entail, and viewed his position until now as one of mild pragmatism. Increasingly less convinced that's the case though. And the arguments his supporters continually use to support his current approach rather hilariously involve them suddenly being selectively reliant on polls when they were happy to ignore them before.
It isn't as simple as you claim though is it. The only thing standing in the way of a conservative majority and carte blanch to do the Brexit they wanted was probably people like me who voted remain and then voted Labour despite Corbyn. We live in confusing times.
Firstly, stop doing that.
Secondly, on this issue it couldn't be clearer that its not the system it is the people.
Lastly, its kick off why am I even in this thread right now god only knows.
No it isn't simple. Where people say they 'voted Labour despite Corbyn' then I understand, and was close to it myself, the people I'm getting at are those who, because they support Corbyn, even though they're massively anti-Brexit, just ignore it, pretend it isn't true, and carry on supporting him. He should have been chucked out at the last Labour conference.
I mainly posted it as a reminder to some that Corbyn is very critical of the EU. There seems to be a pattern of every few months certain people being shocked that Corbyn is a politician on the far left.
I would say something similar to the pro reform arguments, which seem based on 90's era incremental ''change''(Actually it's just forcing right wing economics onto people). They don't seem to have realised that global crash in 2008 happened and that their polices afterwards destroyed people lives. That actual fascist are popping up all over Europe at the EU answer is to make sure the budgets are in line.
Also it's only very recently in the UK I've heard talk of reforming EU, for years it's was viewed as a final barrier to stopping tory policies, I have reason to believe that the people who talk about ''reforms'' are actually in interested in forming the eu(Not to mentioned it's pretty much impossible to change treaties).
Oh man, he's always looked like an absolute fecking weapon. The time before beard trimmers.
Fair on the first point, irrespective of his actual views on the EU he's not exactly been saying he'll keep us in the EU recently, and in that regard a lot of the outrage seems manufactured if not misplaced.
I think the thing with 'reformists' though is that it's difficult to put them all into one group, because they're ultimately incredibly varied, coming from different political alignments and in different countries who have different interests within the EU. The wishes of the reformist right in France will be different from a reformist left in Sweden, or Spain, or somewhere else, even if there's plenty of overlap.
And the extent of overlap can vary as well, from mild change to completely overhauling the EU from back to front.
The EU's fairly neoliberal but by the same token I think it's fairly unrealistic to characterise it as entirely right-wing. They've been important in implementing certain initiatives and policies which have either helped workers to a certain extent or which have been beneficial to the environment. And at this point there's no reason leftists across Europe can't push for the left to have a bigger influence within Europe and implement more left-wing policy, even if they struggle to completely reorganise the underlying principles of the organisation as a whole.
That may seem unrealistic to expect, and to an extent it probably is, but as I've established there's not really any way to disentangle ourselves from the EU financially unless we want the economy to suffer badly (therefore hurting the people Corbyn's meant to be helping) or unless we want to break the GFA and reignite tensions in Northern Ireland. I think criticism of certain parts of the EU are fair but unless you've got a response to those two problems above, it's difficult to take serious any argument which defends Corbyn's stance as a Leaver. Whether you view him as as an actual Leaver, or someone doing it because he thinks it's best to stand by the result.
A lot of Corbyn policies on nationalisation, spending, etc violate the EUs, budget and state aid rules and probably require Brexit to be implemented properly?
I believe however it's going to be a mute point. Theresa May has botched the EU withdrawal agreement so badly that it's fairly probable Brexit won't happen. Once the agreement and all other terrible options are voted down, the government / parliament will then prioritize avoiding a no deal Brexit. Despite the drivel being spouted by Leadsom et al neither the parliamentary labour or conservative party support a no deal scenario, despite what there leadership wants or says and there are other options.
Theresa May has walked in to an EU trap. They know the WA won't pass, they've given us the option of unilaterally revoking article 50 as the way out. That is why they've closed negotiations with May, Corbyn or anyone else.
There will likely be a either a referendum or a general election next year imo.
Gone a bit quiet since José was sacked.