That I would like to see with them as PM, would be hilarious.
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That I would like to see with them as PM, would be hilarious.
No outcome of this vote will be good. If we get a cnut like Boris or Raab in charge...
True enough.
Looks like they had another long lunch in the pub today. How are points 1 and 2 compatible in practice unless this magic technology appears? How are equivalent regulations and the level playing field monitored and enforced after day 1?
All of these brexiteers are complete cowards look at JR Mogg already saying he wouldnt run for Parliament. How can these people continuously get away with this crap.
So they are backing May so that she can go back to the EU so she can renegotiate, which the EU won't do.
But even if the EU bowed down and agreed unilateral withdrawal from the backstop, the agreement still wouldn't pass through parliament.
What a kerfuffle.
But even if the EU bowed down and agreed unilateral withdrawal from the backstop, the agreement still wouldn't pass through parliament.
What a kerfuffle.
The WrongJohnsons is a good folk band name.
I wouldn't tangle with 'em.
Hello and a rapid goodbye to Uk's trade deal with Japan.
Would be a pretty bloody nose for her.
Even fewer. 65.
Will any abstain?
I think this is a move that the Brexiteers make purely because they have to, and can point back to this time at the next leadership election? Still, no-one wants to poison their future by being associated with Brexit, so they’ll let May fight this on her own, though they have to look to be fighting her as she does it.
Maybe ignore my last post. This would be dreadful...
What happens next is interesting
Rumors that votes for a spill range from 86 to 120.
I just don’t understand.
Maybe I’m too much of a logician, but surely there’s some joined up thinking here?! The Brexiteers must have realised by now that there’s no happy ending for them if they take charge of negotiations. The only situation I see that satisfies all parties is that they pretend to struggle, May’s deal eventually gets through, she then falls on her sword and everyone can spend the rest of the their careers pretending they could have “done Brexit better”.
David Davis is already playing that card after spending 18 months in charge of negotiations.
Maybe I’m too much of a logician, but surely there’s some joined up thinking here?! The Brexiteers must have realised by now that there’s no happy ending for them if they take charge of negotiations. The only situation I see that satisfies all parties is that they pretend to struggle, May’s deal eventually gets through, she then falls on her sword and everyone can spend the rest of the their careers pretending they could have “done Brexit better”.
David Davis is already playing that card after spending 18 months in charge of negotiations.
have the votes of the secret ballot already been counted?
They’re announcing the result at 9 apparently.
231-86
Who knows what the exact process is, but given that only 300-odd people vote in a two hour time frame, nothing to stop Brady and his bods counting the votes as they come in.
Yes, but we can't tell you. It's a secret.
i suppose, just that you see so many different numbers been thrown around on the twittersphere
They can’t, it’s a secret ballot.
Where does 86 rank in the scale of ‘rebellion crushed’ to ‘government in collapse’? I don’t really understand how people have judged this.
That would be 317 votes... Pretty sure The speaker does not get a vote (he's a conservative MP)
I think anything under 100 votes against and she is probably strengthened
If that happens do you think she orchestrated the vote to strengthen her hand within the party.
50-75 huge win for may
75-100 what is roughly expected and a strong win
100-125 a win but a major worry for her
125-157 and it would be hard to see her survive even though its Technically a win
That is pretty much hard Brexiteers against the rest.
It's not a win. Anything more than 60 and she will probabky lose a labour motion.
So May could resign if she only won by only 4% of the vote after spending a year negotiating a brexit she doesn't want because leave won by 4% of the vote.
Makes as much sense as any of it I suppose.
Given her ineptitude to date I think it's highly unlikely she has the ability to pull that together
Doubt it I've heard about 20mps who submitted a letter and all said they would back her against a labour motion... Dup have said as much as well
Her permanent secretary might have the wherewithal or have I watched too much 'Yes Prime Minister'
Based on my experience in whitehall I sadly think you have indeed watched too much and you may be greatly overestimating their competence
Good show though.
Better watch The thick of it
I have that's good as well.
Imagine living in a country where Boris could become the leader.