Good, if she's going to insist on clinging on for the sake of her own ego I hope she hates every second of it.
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Good, if she's going to insist on clinging on for the sake of her own ego I hope she hates every second of it.
I think I’d punch her in the face given the chance.
Their ultimate aim is a hard border. Its like the will of the people doesn't exist to them
I'd be okay with another referendum no matter which way I voted. I believe that giving people more choice is always democratic.
Not putting the deferal to a motion is another contempt of parliament in my book. Cowards
Did they actually make a premature ejaculation joke in Parliament? 
I'm tabling a no-confidence motion in Corbyn too, the utter fecking useless cretin.
So now Labour are also kicking the no confidence motion into the long grass?
Corbyn is as pointless as Lingard, but does he run around a lot?
Is Corbyn's current strategy basically to have no strategy?
Because they know they wouldn't win now, and then they don't get the chance to make another vote of confidence for a year after. It's a bit of pointless symbolism that just empowers May
Absolutely. He should table a no confidence motion, which will lose.Is Corbyn's current strategy basically to have no strategy?
You're being taken for mugs, by a bunch of people who could easily just push for the vote themselves. Ask them why they're not bothering.
Because MPs are shouting for her to renegotiate, not necessarily get a better deal.
Its an obvious way to save face imo
I have ambitions to play for United. I'm overweight, have bad knees and little motivation to improve...
Ok, bad example.
It'll be fine, there's still plenty for the bastards to take from us. Like our teeth, for example.
Says the person who still has confidence in Corbyn.
Whatever hopes we might have had for him, he's proven himself to be a Moyes.
Great post. Has it won the DUP over to vote against May in any no-confidence vote, yet?
No deal it is then
The whole thing is a joke, it’s as clear as day we are going to remain. Negotiate a terrible deal, imply a no deal will mean the country turn into the third world and then the ECJ rule, with impeccable timing, we can revoke Article 50 and be let back in without the other nations voting.
Why delay the inevitable, just get on with it and do it. There will be a backlash by a group of people no matter what happens. Nothing is getting resolved by constantly delaying. The EU won’t negotiate anything now so it’s pointless going back to the table with them.
Why delay the inevitable, just get on with it and do it. There will be a backlash by a group of people no matter what happens. Nothing is getting resolved by constantly delaying. The EU won’t negotiate anything now so it’s pointless going back to the table with them.
May's majority in Parliament is 13. We know more letters than that have been sent to the 1924 committee, we don't know how the DUP would vote on a confidence motion. We know that everyone else would support Labour. They might pull together and support May at the last, but then it would be on Grieve, Soubry – or on the other extreme the ERG – to explain why they put party before country.
And even if they were defeated, so what? Parliament can't bind Parliament, there would be nothing to stop Labour calling another confidence vote in 3 weeks time if the situation changed.
All they've down is allowed May off the rope, to fight another day and to kick the can further down the road towards the cliff edge on March 29th.
It's sheer political cowardice from a man who seems desperate to ensure that the Tories get their Brexit.
The two bold bits are the question and the answer.
In all seriousness, it's pretty impressive stuff to be given a list of MPs who are so desperate for this vote of no-confidence that they're not prepared to push for it themselves and decide it's Corbyn who is a political coward. They're playing you like a fiddle.
I really hope we're not headed for no deal. Damage will be incredible on so many levels.
He's playing it exactly the way it has to be played. It's quite obvious.
We're just playing the game of who is to blame.
Considering the strength of statements coming from the Tory side of the benches it's backfired at every turn.
I'm not sure if it'll pass but Corbyn should table the no confidence vote and implore the Tories to join them. The anger at the government from their own side is beyond what I've seen before.
Why would the ERG put it to a GE when they can out May by themselves and just go to a leadership change?
YepDid they actually make a premature ejaculation joke in Parliament?
That’s just the Tory leadership challenge policy, not for votes of no confidence in the government.
So much so they can't even get enough letters to trigger a leadership contest. Suddenly they're all going to be inspired to not only get rid of May, but potentially dissolve parliament?
Because they self evidently don't have the numbers, hence why May didn't face a Conservative party no-confidence vote.
There are however more than 7 of them, which would be enough to tip the balance even if the DUP vote with the government.
Not that they necessarily would, I suspect they wouldn't, but it would ratchet up the pressure on Tory Remainers to put country before party.
And at any rate, a vote of no confidence does not necessarily lead to a GE under the Fixed Term Parliament Act.
Try again. The first sentence makes no sense.
So if they fail then he's further exposed them as being hypocrites, which would arguably be beneficial for the opposition.
A vote is called. May wins or, as you put it, she's "allowed [...] off the rope, to fight another day and to kick the can further down the road towards the cliff edge on March 29th."
Wasn't this thread full of people whinging because Corbyn dared to take 20 minutes to talk about austerity a few days ago? Now he should be binning Brexit off as a talking point and going all out to trigger a vote he can't win?
Ah ok. I still think May winning a No Confidence Vote would actually be a boost for her, but makes less sense not to try if they can just do it again if her deal comes back and still gets rejected at a later date.
I'll stand corrected on your final point then as i thought it did.
On the number of letters however they're not that far off and a few have been added today. The ERG will probably be feeling confident of it coming soon enough.
There will be a bigger backlash if hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs because we leave with no deal or a bad deal.
The supposed point of the Labour call for a no confidence motion is to call a GE so they can renegotiate, right? And May's trying to postpone this as long as possible to get her party to blink first, right? So what's the grand strategy when May calls a vote in February with a month till no deal.
Talk about being played like a fiddle when some people can swallow this shite.
And spoiler alert, the DUP aren't going to vote to put Gerry Adams' mate in number 10.
This is literally all to avoid having to get behind a second referendum because the election looks off the table.
Talk about being played like a fiddle when some people can swallow this shite.
And spoiler alert, the DUP aren't going to vote to put Gerry Adams' mate in number 10.
This is literally all to avoid having to get behind a second referendum because the election looks off the table.
So why aren't any of the names on that list pushing for the vote themselves?
I'm afraid in your rush to reply you've completely missed the point.
By not calling a vote they've already allowed May off the rope and to kick the can down the road. That's literally her plan, you can go back and watch the debate if you don't believe me, and it's the one Labour are stating that they have confidence in by not challenging her.
There's nothing stopping them calling a confidence vote, and then calling another one if and when her deal is rejected when she brings it back before Parliament. We'd just save a precious few months if it succeeded first time.
In fairness, I suspect it probably would because of the numbers in Parliament, but the FTPA gives a minority government 14 days from no confidence vote to pass a confidence vote. There's a slim possibility, probably only a theoretical one in reality, that you could probably get a pro-Remain/pro soft Brexit consensus through with something approaching a national unity government, but it would be unprecedented.
Theresa may is going to try and make her deal palletable by getting some concessions on the backstop.
That won't be enough to get it through parliament
Then she's going to have to have to with one of the camps to present the deal in a referendum.
The question is, when will it take place (it won't take place before March, but that means it's taking place in March!! And what will be on the ballet paper.
Brexit2 referendum is now inevitable
That won't be enough to get it through parliament
Then she's going to have to have to with one of the camps to present the deal in a referendum.
The question is, when will it take place (it won't take place before March, but that means it's taking place in March!! And what will be on the ballet paper.
Brexit2 referendum is now inevitable
Then why isn't Chuka or any of the other letter signers doing it then? Why aren't you asking them the same question?