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So why doesn’t Corbyn want to just focus on putting that forward as the official Labour position? Why the desire to talk about austerity instead? Are there still people who don’t know Labour are anti-austerity?
Exactly, everyone knows making Brexit go away will solve everything. Get that vote overturned and we can all put our feet up and definitely not have to look into why the initial referendum was lost. T'was merely a service station stop on the status quo highway.
 
Exactly, everyone knows making Brexit go away will solve everything. Get that vote overturned and we can all put our feet up and definitely not have to look into why the initial referendum was lost. T'was merely a service station stop on the status quo highway.

Get Brexit overturned and I’ll be right behind Corbyn on his economic platform. But let’s stop this pretense that Brexit is going to do anything other than feck poor people even harder than they’re already being fecked, and that’s true regardless of how hard or soft the Brexit is.
 
Cox is coming off an arse here keeps saying he doesn't want to be in conflict with the house but he's acting in the public interest in not sharing it. Who the feck is he to make that decision?
 
Get Brexit overturned and I’ll be right behind Corbyn on his economic platform. But let’s stop this pretense that Brexit is going to do anything other than feck poor people even harder than they’re already being fecked, and that’s true regardless of how hard or soft the Brexit is.
Agree with this.
 
Get Brexit overturned and I’ll be right behind Corbyn on his economic platform. But let’s stop this pretense that Brexit is going to do anything other than feck poor people even harder than they’re already being fecked, and that’s true regardless of how hard or soft the Brexit is.
We've had a bunch of people whose only thought is overturning Brexit and look at the political dregs who they've made more than welcome. Not a single austerity backing voting record has been too much to gloss over. I have absolutely no faith in any of these 'People's Vote' pricks being even remotely interested in what comes next, looking at what they've been more than willing to overlook.

This is the first time I've seen any (even remotely) high profile politician wishing to talk about what happens next when Brexit isn't an issue anymore, in regards to learning the lessons from it getting to this point in the first place. May will be begging for any of these debates to be about Brexit and nothing else. Just like people like Soubry, Cable and co probably can't believe their luck when the gathered hordes don't bring up what they were more than willing to do with poor people's lives before this came along. Soubry went to a march, with thousands of people who are supposedly concerned about vulnerable people post-Brexit, three days after voting to keep the Universal Credit rollout assessment secret and was welcomed like a hero.

These people have had two and a half years, some of the most media friendly names in politics and an almost guaranteed spot on any medium that they wish, to come up with even a 'back of a fag packet' message or slogan for what comes next. When is the grand reveal?
 
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The attorney general?

He's said in this exchange that he's at the will of the house and it can be shared in exception. He knows what it has voted on and he knows the will of the house now.

It appears to me that he's here only to enforce that if they want the information they'll need to pass a contempt motion (which has now been filed).

Perhaps there's something in it for which the goverment wish to avoid the blame of it being made public
 
About to get interesting.



They've just sprung it on the speaker now, very interesting exchange :lol:

Cox tried to throw back a delaying tactic of asking the speaker to wait for governments proposala first. Wasn't having it, i do like Bercow
 
This government getting away with murder. How can you just ignore parliament?
 
We've had a bunch of people whose only thought is overturning Brexit and look at the political dregs who they've made more than welcome. Not a single austerity backing voting record has been too much to gloss over. I have absolutely no faith in any of these 'People's Vote' pricks being even remotely interested in what comes next, looking at what they've been more than willing to overlook.

This is the first time I've seen any (even remotely) high profile politician wishing to talk about what happens next when Brexit isn't an issue anymore, in regards to learning the lessons from it getting to this point in the first place. May will be begging for any of these debates to be about Brexit and nothing else. Just like people like Soubry, Cable and co probably can't believe their luck when the gathered hordes don't bring up what they were more than willing to do with poor people's lives before this came along. Soubry went to a march, with thousands of people who are supposedly concerned about vulnerable people post-Brexit, three days after voting to keep the Universal Credit rollout assessment secret and was welcomed like a hero.

These people have had two and a half years, some of the most media friendly names in politics and an almost guaranteed spot on any medium that they wish, to come up with even a 'back of a fag packet' message or slogan for what comes next. When is the grand reveal?

We have forever to talk about the economic direction of the country and just under 4 months to avoid Brexit. Right now I’ll take any supporters from any party who’ll oppose it, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to be supporting their economic ideas afterwards. This is a cliff edge event, and I’m fecked if I’m ok with falling off it because everyone’s too busy squabbling about which road we should have taken to reach the cliff.
 
So why doesn’t Corbyn want to just focus on putting that forward as the official Labour position? Why the desire to talk about austerity instead? Are there still people who don’t know Labour are anti-austerity?

Because there are people out there who blame the EU for problems caused by austerity. You can't not mention domestic politics in this debate
 
The deal is based on May's red lines, if the red lines change, so will the deal
The only real red line May had was to end free movement. Labour has the same position.
 
We have forever to talk about the economic direction of the country and just under 4 months to avoid Brexit. Right now I’ll take any supporters from any party who’ll oppose it, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to be supporting their economic ideas afterwards. This is a cliff edge event, and I’m fecked if I’m ok with falling off it because everyone’s too busy squabbling about which road we should have taken to reach the cliff.
Good luck with that as a slogan for a second referendum. People saying that for the last decade worked wonders at the last one.

Because there are people out there who blame the EU for problems caused by austerity. You can't not mention domestic politics in this debate
You can if you're one of the People's Vote masses. Mostly because people would then wonder why they should listen to the very people who have repeatedly voted for austerity, long before Brexit came along, at the second vote they're trying to get.
 
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You can if you're one of the People's Vote masses. Mostly because people would then wonder why they should listen to the very people who have repeatedly voted for austerity, long before Brexit came along, at the second vote they're trying to get.

Whereas they’re absolutely fine following the lead of the Tory far right who cheerlead for Brexit?
 


Well....this is going to get interesting.

I don't know how we get there but this must happen, a referendum must happen.

It completely pulls the rug out of Mays risking a no deal ploy which is great.
 
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Well....this is going to get interesting

Significant indeed. This isn't the final court ruling but they go with the Advocate-General's opinion most of the time. If upheld this would ironically be the only scenario where the UK could actually 'take back control' - a future trade deal would be subject to 27 member states' vetoes, as would any attempt to rejoin down the road.
 


Well....this is going to get interesting.

I don't know how we get there but this must happen, a referendum must happen.

It completely pulls the rug out of Mays risking a no deal ploy which is great.


Yes, very interesting development. A few permutations there. This is becoming like some weird platform game.
 
From the beeb

Bank of England governor Mark Carney says ts recent forecasts of the impact of Brexit were not something the central bank came up with overnight.

"There's no exam crisis. We didn't say up all night," he says.

In fact, he says a core team of 20 senior economists worked on it for a couple of years, 150 different professionals across the Bank were also drawn in and then the report was reviewed by both the Monetary Policy Committee and the Bank's Financial Policy Committee.

Load of bollox. David Davis knows more than that lot put together....:smirk:
 
Imagine how great it would be to unilaterally repeal Brexit and the our lives stop becoming dominated by Brexit. One can but hope.

Imagine a newscast with no Brexit news!
 
Imagine how great it would be to unilaterally repeal Brexit and the our lives stop becoming dominated by Brexit. One can but hope.

Imagine a newscast with no Brexit news!
I'd be ecstatic to wave goodbye to the words 'Brexit' and also 'mathematically impossible'.
 
Whereas they’re absolutely fine following the lead of the Tory far right who cheerlead for Brexit?
Well Jo Johnson, a man who has literally never voted in favour of the UK's membership of the EU, or EU nationals right to remain in the UK - had a special event held in his honour. They even got Gary Lineker to pop along and softball interview him.
 
Well Jo Johnson, a man who has literally never voted in favour of the UK's membership of the EU, or EU nationals right to remain in the UK - had a special event held in his honour. They even got Gary Lineker to pop along and softball interview him.

Enemy of my enemy. It’s a temporary thing to get what we want. Needs must.
 
I'd be ecstatic to wave goodbye to the words 'Brexit' and also 'mathematically impossible'.
:lol:Hoping the phrase 'the will of the people' can be consigned to the bin too.
 
So in light of this news:
When May fails in parliament and there is no time or patience from the EU left to re-negotiate, meanwhile the economic forecasts continue to be terrible and companies either threaten to or actually leave the UK in anticipation of a no-deal Brexit. The chances of a no-deal vs cost/negotiation-free remain referendum should be pretty good then?