Ubik
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This is why the head to head debate would be bad.The softer Brexit the EU have already said is unattainable as they’re unwilling to reopen negotiations?
This is why the head to head debate would be bad.The softer Brexit the EU have already said is unattainable as they’re unwilling to reopen negotiations?
idk you'll have to ask himSo why doesn’t Corbyn want to just focus on putting that forward as the official Labour position? Why the desire to talk about austerity instead? Are there still people who don’t know Labour are anti-austerity?
idk you'll have to ask him
Exactly, everyone knows making Brexit go away will solve everything. Get that vote overturned and we can all put our feet up and definitely not have to look into why the initial referendum was lost. T'was merely a service station stop on the status quo highway.So why doesn’t Corbyn want to just focus on putting that forward as the official Labour position? Why the desire to talk about austerity instead? Are there still people who don’t know Labour are anti-austerity?
Exactly, everyone knows making Brexit go away will solve everything. Get that vote overturned and we can all put our feet up and definitely not have to look into why the initial referendum was lost. T'was merely a service station stop on the status quo highway.
Agree with this.Get Brexit overturned and I’ll be right behind Corbyn on his economic platform. But let’s stop this pretense that Brexit is going to do anything other than feck poor people even harder than they’re already being fecked, and that’s true regardless of how hard or soft the Brexit is.
The government would have made the decision and instructed his answer.Who the feck is he to make that decision?
The attorney general?Cox is coming off an arse here keeps saying he doesn't want to be in conflict with the house but he's acting in the public interest in not sharing it. Who the feck is he to make that decision?
We've had a bunch of people whose only thought is overturning Brexit and look at the political dregs who they've made more than welcome. Not a single austerity backing voting record has been too much to gloss over. I have absolutely no faith in any of these 'People's Vote' pricks being even remotely interested in what comes next, looking at what they've been more than willing to overlook.Get Brexit overturned and I’ll be right behind Corbyn on his economic platform. But let’s stop this pretense that Brexit is going to do anything other than feck poor people even harder than they’re already being fecked, and that’s true regardless of how hard or soft the Brexit is.
The attorney general?
About to get interesting.
About to get interesting.
We've had a bunch of people whose only thought is overturning Brexit and look at the political dregs who they've made more than welcome. Not a single austerity backing voting record has been too much to gloss over. I have absolutely no faith in any of these 'People's Vote' pricks being even remotely interested in what comes next, looking at what they've been more than willing to overlook.
This is the first time I've seen any (even remotely) high profile politician wishing to talk about what happens next when Brexit isn't an issue anymore, in regards to learning the lessons from it getting to this point in the first place. May will be begging for any of these debates to be about Brexit and nothing else. Just like people like Soubry, Cable and co probably can't believe their luck when the gathered hordes don't bring up what they were more than willing to do with poor people's lives before this came along. Soubry went to a march, with thousands of people who are supposedly concerned about vulnerable people post-Brexit, three days after voting to keep the Universal Credit rollout assessment secret and was welcomed like a hero.
These people have had two and a half years, some of the most media friendly names in politics and an almost guaranteed spot on any medium that they wish, to come up with even a 'back of a fag packet' message or slogan for what comes next. When is the grand reveal?
The softer Brexit the EU have already said is unattainable as they’re unwilling to reopen negotiations?
So why doesn’t Corbyn want to just focus on putting that forward as the official Labour position? Why the desire to talk about austerity instead? Are there still people who don’t know Labour are anti-austerity?
The only real red line May had was to end free movement. Labour has the same position.The deal is based on May's red lines, if the red lines change, so will the deal
Good luck with that as a slogan for a second referendum. People saying that for the last decade worked wonders at the last one.We have forever to talk about the economic direction of the country and just under 4 months to avoid Brexit. Right now I’ll take any supporters from any party who’ll oppose it, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to be supporting their economic ideas afterwards. This is a cliff edge event, and I’m fecked if I’m ok with falling off it because everyone’s too busy squabbling about which road we should have taken to reach the cliff.
You can if you're one of the People's Vote masses. Mostly because people would then wonder why they should listen to the very people who have repeatedly voted for austerity, long before Brexit came along, at the second vote they're trying to get.Because there are people out there who blame the EU for problems caused by austerity. You can't not mention domestic politics in this debate
The deal is based on May's red lines, if the red lines change, so will the deal
Had to check this was definitely a spoof article.
Nation excited by televised Brexit debate between woman who hates debating and man who won't talk about Brexit
In order to gain sovereignty, you have to destroy it. Or something.This government getting away with murder. How can you just ignore parliament?
You can if you're one of the People's Vote masses. Mostly because people would then wonder why they should listen to the very people who have repeatedly voted for austerity, long before Brexit came along, at the second vote they're trying to get.
Well....this is going to get interesting
Well....this is going to get interesting.
I don't know how we get there but this must happen, a referendum must happen.
It completely pulls the rug out of Mays risking a no deal ploy which is great.
The UK should be able to unilaterally cancel its withdrawal from the EU, according to a top European law officer.
I'd be ecstatic to wave goodbye to the words 'Brexit' and also 'mathematically impossible'.Imagine how great it would be to unilaterally repeal Brexit and the our lives stop becoming dominated by Brexit. One can but hope.
Imagine a newscast with no Brexit news!
Well Jo Johnson, a man who has literally never voted in favour of the UK's membership of the EU, or EU nationals right to remain in the UK - had a special event held in his honour. They even got Gary Lineker to pop along and softball interview him.Whereas they’re absolutely fine following the lead of the Tory far right who cheerlead for Brexit?
Well Jo Johnson, a man who has literally never voted in favour of the UK's membership of the EU, or EU nationals right to remain in the UK - had a special event held in his honour. They even got Gary Lineker to pop along and softball interview him.
Hoping the phrase 'the will of the people' can be consigned to the bin too.I'd be ecstatic to wave goodbye to the words 'Brexit' and also 'mathematically impossible'.
The only 'temporary thing to get what we want' is Jo Johnson's interest in remaining in the EU for some easy PR. It's working a treat, they've already forgotten the role he had in appointing eugenics fanboy Toby Young.Enemy of my enemy. It’s a temporary thing to get what we want. Needs must.