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This beefing up of the text seems as empty as Camerons so called 'victories'.
I'm not sure the EU should be getting involved in playing politics to sell the deal to the british public.
I'm not sure the EU should be getting involved in playing politics to sell the deal to the british public.
For what it's worth I don't think all of the additional tax burden should be placed on £46k+ or whatever the figure is. But there should be a super tax rate for earnings over something like £1m p.a.
There is a big difference between taxing the "RICH" and the "Slightly Better Off" - if someone through entrepreneurialism or academic hard work to carve out a career and live a middle class lifestyle, he should not be expected to pick up a significantly greater element of the tab here! In fact he already does by virtue of a 40% tax rate.
Check out the income of Denise Coates (Bet365 owner) being presented on the news today - surely its people like this where fury would be better directed?
Check out the income of Denise Coates (Bet365 owner) being presented on the news today - surely its people like this where fury would be better directed?
I've seen it happen many times. Not everyone that is successful, obviously, but a good few. Self-made wealthy people are often the worst of the lot.
dense fecked born into wealth are the worst because they wind up becoming tory mps
Does anyone know if the wording on the exit agreement is to be changed - to placate Rebels/DUP
It should be of a greater focus but the reality is the 40% band will need to increase to support the society we all want. 40% isn't particularly high and the principle that those who take the most from the economy should also be giving the most back to society is an important one, effort is irrelevant as with all the effort in the world you'll struggle to earn money in a run down economy/society.
Personally I'd increase IHT before anything else but that's outrageous to the tory folk.
Somewhere near 1976 maybe?
http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/repository/incometaxrates_1974to1990.pdf
10 separate tax rates, fecking hell!
1976... no tax free allowance
tax starts at 35% and goes up to 83%
No wonder they didnt regain power till New labour and Blair!
Yes and the whole workforce were taxed. But the public services were pretty crap and never reflected that take.
Mainly because the government spunked it all meeting striking workers in nationalised industries pay demands. So they could carry on producing stuff that nobody wanted to buy.
By 1979 they could not go to the taxpayer for any more to fund this lunacy and we got the Winter of Discontent - then Maggie.
Edit: Everyone remembers the medicine, not the original illness. We were called the Sick Man of Europe.
But, but...socialism?
Absolutely. 70k a year puts you in the top 5%.
And the other point about people conflating hard work, with how much they earn is everything that is wrong in this country. There is a base assumption that if anyone doesn’t have a good wage, they don’t work hard enough. It’s even worse in the US.
Most countries in the world have experienced the fact that government run services tend to be more inefficient than the private sector.
Yet somehow some people on here on to re-nationalize everything and expect the higher earners to pay for it.
I see madcnut Maybot is still ploughing on ahead despite how it clashes with airwave opinion that her deal can fcuk off.
What is the benefit of greater efficiency if the increased efficiency only benefits the profits of foreign operators?
I don't think we should re-nationalise everything, but I don't think its as black and white as you're suggesting
May needs Ian Paisley Jr with his delicate diplomacy on the case pronto.
"Theresa! Tell them where they can take their sombrero, straw donkey and sangria..."
Nice strawman dude. Noone can argue that for-profit railway operation has failed.
On a practical note, any posters who travel to Europe with dogs or cats may need to speak to their vet ASAP. Mine has told me today that she thinks a serological certificate will be needed, in addition to the rabies jab your pet will have already had if you're a traveller. I'm going to get our two dogs tested in a week or so - it's only a blood test, but it'll cost £125 per animal.
Of course, in reality it's absolutely unnecessary for regularly-travelling animals that are already in the Pet Passport system (they already have all the checks carried out that they need, and more), but this is how it's going to be for all sorts of things, I assume.
Of course, in reality it's absolutely unnecessary for regularly-travelling animals that are already in the Pet Passport system (they already have all the checks carried out that they need, and more), but this is how it's going to be for all sorts of things, I assume.
I seem to be lost can someone point me towards the Brexit thread?
feck me, 35% on the first £5k! No tax-free allowance at all and 83% on amounts over £20k
British Rail was a national laughing stock, public transport in t his country has always been a joke.
No wonder Brexit is a shambles, you can't even stay on topic in a thread ffs
But they did mostly run on time and prices were cheap. Tell me what's better about the services now?
You do realise this was as a result of a recession don't you? I don't know why people decide to blame a specific political party, any government in power would have needed to make cuts. Maybe in your opinion the cuts have gone on for too long but this country is in every increasing debt, it's not sustainable.
And before you ask I have never voted Tory.
Every country will have people in poor situations but we have substantially less people in that position compared to say Eastern Europe. The Brexit debate came about because a large volume of people were frustrated with the EU for varying reasons. To simply say these people are stupid for voting a different way to you is ridiculous. I'm sure the vast majority of people who voted out were not expecting it to be so difficult to leave and that the deal on the table is nothing like what they voted for. The deal should be scrapped, keep membership as it is for now and see how things go in the future in my opinion.
It was cheap when you were a kid, you only paid half fare!
No they wouldn't. Cuts are an awful way to respond to recession, that's the time you're supposed to invest to kickstart the economy. If you're going to cut you should be doing it when the economy is roaring.
Not true, for many years I got an annual season ticket from the south coast to London. It was about 1,400 quid which was a lot, but i hear they are way more now and the service is worse.
Why is it that whenever a nationized service is shit, that's apparently proof that nationalisation is doomed to failure always, but a long series of private companies can feck up that same service, and apparently that doesn't prove anything?
Even accounting for inflation for the incomes it’s insane.feck me, 35% on the first £5k! No tax-free allowance at all and 83% on amounts over £20k
In my head, 50% total deductions seems an arbitrarily fair amount for higher incomes. Half of everything you earn.
My biggest gripe is being taxed again on taxed income through VAT, stamp duty, fuel duty, council tax etc.
Why waste billions in public money when evidence tells you they can't do it any better?
That's the point.
Assuming quality of service is equal then surely the fact it would be much cheaper for the public is arguably the bigger point here?
Because some things can't be done for profit but are needed by society. That's a big point of government.
Which evidence? Last time a rail service was taken over by the government, they made it profitable did they not? But no, we have to focus instead on the feckups of governments from decades ago and ignore the repeated failures of private companies since, despite the fact those private companies have cost billions in public money from the government having to repeatedly bail them out.