Christ. No wonder he and Trump admire each other. Seems like birds of a feather.Anyone seen Boris Johnsons '6 point plan to earn a better Brexit' ?
From The Daily Mail...
2 & 6 are my personal favourites. feckin clown.
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Probably a dopey Russian troll instructed to post divisive tweets on UK media.
Anyone seen Boris Johnsons '6 point plan to earn a better Brexit' ?
From The Daily Mail...
2 & 6 are my personal favourites. feckin clown.
Mother of Christ.I don't know whether to laugh or be terrified, this is a guy who's transcended into one of the most powerful and influential politician's in the UK for feck sake.
Free movement of people means freedom of movement for workers between Norway and EU, and that Norway is a part of the Schengen Area.
I can't see how all this upheaval and having a 'Norway' agreement makes it worthwhile. The main issue is 'immigration' and if there is no realistic way of 'curtailing' this outside of a hard brexit, then we should just pack it all in.
In all honesty, I reckon the brexit process alone has already put off many Europeans from ever setting foot here.
The DM comments section has been entertaining recently. It’s fair to say a lot of the regulars are not too happy about, post-Dacre, the slight moderation in the editorial position towards the EU. It’s become like The Guardian apparently.
Have a listen to May in 2016 (much nicer hair too which I think is the most important take-away here btw
)https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-what-theresa-may-really-thinks-about-brexit
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I believe Cameron was very critical of her back in 2016 privately for her fairly lackluster campaigning during the referendum. Not to mention she gleefully went all-in for a hard Brexit post-referendum when she could've been more measured. I don't think she's a full-on Rees Mogg/John Redwood type but she's hardly going to walk through Brussels draped in a European flag either.
Turkeys, Christmas etc..
WTF? She was clearly and openly remain. She wasn't blackmailed into voting remain (which she admits she did) she is on record as believing wholeheartedly it was the in the best interests of the country.
From my post above …
Have a listen to May in 2016 (much nicer hair too which I think is the most important take-away here btw
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-what-theresa-may-really-thinks-about-brexit
I think she was pro Single Market but there was one of the four freedoms that she doesn't like. Have a guess which one.
Same town had previously been a recipient of EU funds to regenerate its town centre too. You get what you vote for.
Baffling.
Says more about the poor education they probably received, the dominance of right-wing news outlets and the spread of misleading or false news through hearsay and social media.
Yep. One of the features of the Brexit result was that a lot of the places that voted leave were among those most likely to be negatively impacted by Brexit. That doesn't happen unless they've been seriously misled.
Jeremy Corbyn speech at CBI - extract:
First, we want a new comprehensive and permanent customs union with a British say in future trade deals that would ensure no hard border in Northern Ireland and avoid the need for the government’s half-baked backstop deal. Businesses and workers need certainty. The Tories’ sticking plaster plan for a temporary customs arrangement, with no clarity on how long it will last and no British say, can only prolong the uncertainty and put jobs and prosperity at risk.
Second, a sensible deal must guarantee a strong single market relationship. Talk of settling for a downgraded Canada-style arrangement is an option popular only on the extremes of the Tory Party. It would be a risk to our economy, jobs and investment in our schools, hospitals and vital public services.
Third, a deal that works for Britain must also guarantee that our country doesn’t fall behind the EU in workers’ rights or protections for consumers and the environment. Britain should be a world leader in rights and standards. We won’t let this Conservative Government use Brexit as an excuse for a race to the bottom in protections, to rip up our rights at work or to expose our children to chlorinated chicken by running down our product standards.
1. When does the application to rejoin the EU go in?
2. You accept the four freedoms?
3. How much are you going to pay for the privilege?
First, we want a new comprehensive and permanent customs union with a British say in future trade deals that would ensure no hard border in Northern Ireland and avoid the need for the government’s half-baked backstop deal. Businesses and workers need certainty. The Tories’ sticking plaster plan for a temporary customs arrangement, with no clarity on how long it will last and no British say, can only prolong the uncertainty and put jobs and prosperity at risk.
Second, a sensible deal must guarantee a strong single market relationship. Talk of settling for a downgraded Canada-style arrangement is an option popular only on the extremes of the Tory Party. It would be a risk to our economy, jobs and investment in our schools, hospitals and vital public services.
Third, a deal that works for Britain must also guarantee that our country doesn’t fall behind the EU in workers’ rights or protections for consumers and the environment. Britain should be a world leader in rights and standards. We won’t let this Conservative Government use Brexit as an excuse for a race to the bottom in protections, to rip up our rights at work or to expose our children to chlorinated chicken by running down our product standards.
1. When does the application to rejoin the EU go in?
2. You accept the four freedoms?
3. How much are you going to pay for the privilege?
How much of that came from uk payments?
Unrelated i guess by why are french people moaning about have petrol 20c cheaper, per litre, than NL for example?
Maybe the Dutch (and British) should have complained more before we got to the sky high prices we have today.
Because they're used to having it cheap, chance to have a go at Macron, get lied to on social media etc . But they're not blaming the EU so not related really. Pain in the bloody ar$e.
UK haven't put up duty for something like 9 years but it's still slightly more expensive than France for Diesel.
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Yeah... Honestly the only way to achieve that (having a say in the EU rules) is to stay in...
You think Brexit will see more money diverted to that town (or towns like it) once the UK's payments come to an end?
Corbyn’s just repeated the Tories rhetoric of 18 months ago with a few ‘worker rights’ and ‘protect jobs’ to socialist it up a bit.
Dear oh dear.
Dear oh dear.
It' just perfect. He just goes with the Tory rhetoric because they can't criticise it and waits to clean up the mess. He even said yesterday on Ridge that they based their six tests on the promises the government set out in the Lancaster speech. They fulwell know they are not achievable and I think Labour has played it brilliantly.
If no deal can get through Parliament, then what?
According to the legistlation parliment voted through ... We leave with no deal...
That's what's written into the withdrawal act
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_(Withdrawal)_Act_2018
So Corbyn’s plan is to torch the British economy so he can turn up as a firefighter. What a hero.
Would love those prices
It does sound like a folk not wanting to pay, sound familiar?
Someone told them this sort of thing happening was just "Project fear".
Why does that matter when the payments and projects will stop?
What happens when the social fabric of many such places has been destroyed by design. When people feel ignored, disconnected and left behind they react and that reaction isn't always logical. Doubly so ehen you have a pervasive right wing press spreading anti-EU bullshit.
Taxes you mean. Fuel used to be so much cheaper compared to the UK- used to get down to empty in Dover and fill up in Calais going out and on the way back (when was in the UK). Diesel duty has increased considerably recently. But we're off subject here.
Found this article interesting...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46254257
Shows just how long both major parties have been split on europe
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46254257
Shows just how long both major parties have been split on europe
I read that they planned to spin this out until the next GE, in 2022, to give them chance to hammer out a sensible trade deal with the EU. TM saying that Europe is our most important market.
It was in the Evening Standard, can anyone find the quotes?
It was in the Evening Standard, can anyone find the quotes?
Well 44% voted To remain... So unless you apply the same logic to the whole debate (and I think I've seen you support a 2nd referendum so I guess you don't) it's probably just a sign of some of the mess that's about to be let loose... And we all deserve what's coming