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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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They can. But it's fairly obvious that at a time when they want to appear united, the EU won't push for being a single sovereign entity if multiple states don't want it to happen and intend to leave as a result.

Surely the logical route would be just to continue the multi-lane approach where the commited core move faster and try and set an example that others then want to follow.
 
Dominic Raab feels bullied. Why is everyone so mean to brexiteers :confused:.

Crybabies, the lot of them.
 
So I see Norwegian culture is still be hide the times then. It's a gameshow where a man in his late 60's pretends to talk to someone on a telephone for a hour.

Norway stopped airing the show in 2007.
In France it was called Take it or Leave It (translated) but stopped in 2015.

The current EU offer is Take it or Leave It.:)
 
Might be interesting to have a poll or a series of questions (not sure who can do that) to see what the consensus is regarding the likley outcomes

Will Mays deal go through?
Will may be gone by Xmas?
Will A50 be extended?
Will there be a ge before 29th march?
Will there be a second referendum?
 
Might be interesting to have a poll or a series of questions (not sure who can do that) to see what the consensus is regarding the likley outcomes

Will Mays deal go through?
Will may be gone by Xmas?
Will A50 be extended?
Will there be a ge before 29th march?
Will there be a second referendum?

No to all.
But the most likely to be yes is May's deal going through, however strange that may seem as not convinced the politicians have the backbone to vote it down.

May gone by Xmas and extending A50 - no chance. No-one's got the guts to replace her and the EU are not going to wait for the UK to make up its mind.
GE - doubt they will call one and not enough time.
2nd referendum, who's going to grant that? Again not enough time - if Brexit is to be stopped the government have to do it.
 
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Might be interesting to have a poll or a series of questions (not sure who can do that) to see what the consensus is regarding the likley outcomes

Will Mays deal go through?
Will may be gone by Xmas?
Will A50 be extended?
Will there be a ge before 29th march?
Will there be a second referendum?
A poll on here?
I think all will just be guessing, but I would say "no" to all of those.
 
Might be interesting to have a poll or a series of questions (not sure who can do that) to see what the consensus is regarding the likley outcomes

Will Mays deal go through?
Will may be gone by Xmas?
Will A50 be extended?
Will there be a ge before 29th march?
Will there be a second referendum?

Taking them in turn -

No
No
Depends on questions 4 & 5
No
Possibly
 
In Wales it was called Do What You Want - I Don't Give A F*ck.
 
So I see Norwegian culture is still be hide the times then. It's a gameshow where a man in his late 60's pretends to talk to someone on a telephone for a hour.
Thanks.
We do have deal or no deal (or we had, people got tired of it years ago I believe). Didn't think it would have anything to do with Brexit. Assumed it had to do with people who had 250k pounds layin around were incentivized one way.
 
Will Mays deal go through?
No - pretty obvious at this stage
Will may be gone by Xmas?
No - pretty obvious because that means a GE and likely Corbyn as PM
Will A50 be extended?
Yes - pretty obvious because the EU keep repeating they want us to stay and will oblige if we ask, which we will because of your last question
Will there be a ge before 29th march?
No - pretty obvious because of the answer to your second question
Will there be a second referendum?
Yes - pretty obvious because what else can happen due to the previous? The PM's deal won't go through, Brussels won't renegotiate because they WANT things to stall as this is what it leads to, May will still be there so Labour won't get their GE and will go to what Corbyn has already described as his Plan B, most other parties will vote for it along with a fair number of Conservative rebels and there's growing public appetite for it to match. It'll be the only plunger left.

The only thing that can stop the second referendum is if after Parliament rejects the current deal May goes back to Brussels, inevitably returns to London with little/no further concessions for a second time, Parliament then have another vote on the deal and all sides decide they're too cowardly to stick to their convictions and instead meet in the middle like May is persuading them to do now (probably already planning ahead for this second round), cashing in their chips on the less awful option than going for a death or glory second referendum. I think the clamour for a second referendum will be too great by then however.
 
Might be interesting to have a poll or a series of questions (not sure who can do that) to see what the consensus is regarding the likley outcomes

Will Mays deal go through?
Will may be gone by Xmas?
Will A50 be extended?
Will there be a ge before 29th march?
Will there be a second referendum?

Thanks whoever made it a poll
 
Is it just me or is it slightly confusing ticking for "No" in the poll answer rather than "Yes"?

That's unlikely to happen. It needs unanimous consent from the other 27 and that's not going to happen unless the UK agrees to the backstop, which the part many in the UK don't like.
What do you mean? Delaying Article 50 would delay us leaving and perhaps even totally prevent us leaving if it was for us to conduct a second referendum; why wouldn't they vote for what they really want?
 
Is it just me or is it slightly confusing ticking for "No" in the poll answer rather than "Yes"?


What do you mean? Delaying Article 50 would delay us leaving and perhaps even totally prevent us leaving if it was for us to conduct a second referendum; why wouldn't they vote for what they really want?

No. Or possibly yes.

Many people will vote no to all and you can't submit a vote without selecting at least one answer.
 
What do you mean? Delaying Article 50 would delay us leaving and perhaps even totally prevent us leaving if it was for us to conduct a second referendum; why wouldn't they vote for what they really want?
Because the only reason to extend A50 is if there's going to be renegotiation of the withdrawal deal and future relationship. They might extend A50 if Britain has a second in/out referendum soon after the March deadline but why would Britain have the referendum after the withdrawal date? They're not going to extend it to get an extra few months of UK membership.
 
That poll is as confusing as brexit.
If there is another referendum it should be in the same format.

Do you agree to want to not want to leave the EU?
 
Because the only reason to extend A50 is if there's going to be renegotiation of the withdrawal deal and future relationship. They might extend A50 if Britain has a second in/out referendum soon after the March deadline but why would Britain have the referendum after the withdrawal date? They're not going to extend it to get an extra few months of UK membership.
Why wouldn't they extend it slightly if it means the sizeable possibility of Britain staying in the EU? How is that not worth doing on an effort/reward ratio?

And how on Earth could the UK call and conduct a full blown national referendum before March?
 
Why wouldn't they extend it slightly if it means the sizeable possibility of Britain staying in the EU? How is that not worth doing on an effort/reward ratio?

And how on Earth could the UK call and conduct a full blown national referendum before March?
We've had an election every year in the last 3, one a snap election that took less than 2 months from announcement to vote. I'm sure one can be arranged for February/March.
 
That poll is as confusing as brexit.
If there is another referendum it should be in the same format.

Do you agree to want to not want to leave the EU?

I'd vote possibly to that proposition.

The reason is was set that was is that many people will vote no to all and you can't submit a vote without selecting at least one answer.
 
Telegraph said:
Boris Johnson: "EU will turn us into captives if we sign up to this appalling sell-out of a deal"
Me: "Oh, get stuffed."
 
At the moment, I can't see how a GE would get through parliament unless the headbangers were confident of winning it. And it's hard to be confident about anything politically these days.
 
We've had an election every year in the last 3, one a snap election that took less than 2 months from announcement to vote. I'm sure one can be arranged for February/March.
The Electoral Commission alone say they'd need 6 months' notice even after it's all been painstakingly fought over and rubberstamped by Parliament.

Also the EU would rather we left with the agreement rather than without one. I don't think they want to roll the no deal dice.
Don't see how it makes no deal more likely. In any case that dice is already rolled and not by them.
 
Don't see how it makes no deal more likely. In any case that dice is already rolled and not by them.
If they refuse an A50 extension and the electoral commission tells parliament to get fecked, parliament will pass May's deal with ease. If they give us an extension due to an upcoming referendum there's a good chance that the country votes to leave without a deal.
 
If they refuse an A50 extension and the electoral commission tells parliament to get fecked, parliament will pass May's deal with ease. If they give us an extension due to an upcoming referendum there's a good chance that the country votes to leave without a deal.
I don't think the Electoral Commission has that power.

Why then do you think the EU keep throwing "Britain can always change its mind" bones into every political statement their leaders make? And how would that happen without a second referendum? Bare in mind they've been in constant contact with Remain parties.
 
I don't think the Electoral Commission has that power.
Exactly, if parliament tells them there's a referendum on February 25th, it's going to happen.

Why then do you think the EU keep throwing "Britain can always change its mind" bones into every political statement their leaders make?
A) It's good PR "we're not vindictive bastards. and B) they'd prefer the UK to remain because it's a big rich country.

And how would that happen without a second referendum?
It won't, but the EU is not going to risk a referendum after the withdrawal date when they know the UK parliament will accept the deal push come to shove. They'd rather the UK half-in and a road to rejoining than a full exit.
 
Why wouldn't they extend it slightly if it means the sizeable possibility of Britain staying in the EU? How is that not worth doing on an effort/reward ratio?

And how on Earth could the UK call and conduct a full blown national referendum before March?

Why wouldn't they... Probably the main reason in the European elections on may 23

I suspect many are hoping that showing that leaving the EU is not an easy exercise might make the electiond a bit harder for the anti EU parties predicted to have a bit of a surge

As for the referendum... I think there is by law a campaign period of as something like 12 weeks

Presuming Mays plan gets deleted mid December and she calls a referendum early Jan...

They then have to get a question format (expect legal challenges)

If lucky perhaps a referendum mid April... And then legistlation to implement it's result... Bang in the middle of EU election campaigning

It's not impossible but certainly one reason the EU might not be keen