I read today one of his colleagues had written that Michael’s wrestling bouts with his conscience constitute the longest winning streak in British sporting history. I chuckled
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I read today one of his colleagues had written that Michael’s wrestling bouts with his conscience constitute the longest winning streak in British sporting history. I chuckled
I’ll be surprised if any stab May in the back to get their grip on the poisoned chalice. It’s a bold political move with virtually no upside.
Dunno, some of the headbangers really believe the sunlit uplands shite.
To leave the EU if I remember my voting card correctly.
I read today one of his colleagues had written that Michael’s wrestling bouts with his conscience constitute the longest winning streak in British sporting history. I chuckled
I read today one of his colleagues had written that Michael’s wrestling bouts with his conscience constitute the longest winning streak in British sporting history. I chuckled
Ditto. The ERG cnuts and Labour will vote it down. Labour can vote with impunity and blame the subsequent chaos on the Tories.
As for those saying Corbyn has played a blinder, yeah fine he's sat back and watched as the Tories tear themselves apart, but he's offered feck all leadership or a viable alternative Brexit. He says he'll negotiate a Brexit that works for everyone'.
Impossible and the spineless tit still won't be honest about his own view.
That's cause he's beyond useless imo.
What happens if Jezza actually comes to power before the end of March?
Of course he's not going to negotiate any Brexit. They're going to kill Brexit but want to make sure it takes the Tories with it which is why they can just sit on the fence and watch. He has openly even acknowledged a People's vote! Brexit has destroyed the Tories for a generation and that can only be a good thing!
All they need is to get into power and put their policies in to improve peoples lives. Brexit has no place in their plans if they are to succeed at it and people will forget if their lives really improve during a Corbyn government.
There isn't a viable alternative brexit, it doesn't exist. The two main party leaders know this and have just been playing politics on it because that's all they can do.
I don't know what anyone wants from them tbh it's not like being honest over this would lead to a more positive outcome. We've reached the inevitable outcome.
Time for the Queen to have a coup over parliament
Can't see how? No way Tories call an election.
Corbyn is anti-EU and hiding behind the will of the people nonsense. Wouldn't trust him to kill Brexit tbh.
Even if he is, its plain for everyone to see the catastrophe that Brexit would bring and absolutely no one would be stupid enough to go with it.
And he alone cannot carry the country in a different direction to the general mood even if he was strongly against it.
No one can or will do. People have to accept that Brexit is happening in some shape or form.
Both Donald Tusk and May have said it can be no Brexit. Tusk went as far as to say that was the best option.
I don't think May has ever said this in the sense it's something the tory party are willing to do. And it's doesn't matter what Tusk says.
Stopping Brexit would destroy both political parties(Tory & Labour)and destroy the legitimacy of UK democracy, these are the reasons why Brexit is going to happen. The best option for people who want to remain is a 2nd referendum.
Recession - for the many!
She said twice clearly “it’s my deal, no deal, or no Brexit”
And it clearly does matter what he says, you said that Brexit can’t be stopped and the leading camps of both side disagree.
And yes obviously the second referendum is the best way, and the fairest way.
Your not reading my post.
She was using the idea of no brexit as way to make your deal look more favourable(Trying to scare leave voters into liking her deal), she wasn't saying it's something that the she might actually do.
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You originally said “no one can or will do” I was merely demonstrating that it very much can be stopped, and that Theresa May is clearly aware and clearly knows it’s a card she can play.
Obviously whether it will or not we will discover in time. When her deal doesn’t go through parliament I don’t see where the country can go other than a second referendum? With three options. However I am happy to be corrected on that as I am by no means an expert lol.
Where do people see this going now?
Anyway this was pointless discussion.
She literally listed it as one of three potential outcomes, so yeah she was saying it could happen. Whether it’s to scare leavers or not is another thing.
Well, that’s not a very nice thing to say, is it?
I personally enjoyed our little debate on a lovely Saturday morning, and I hope you have a delightful day.
what the feck do you think is going to happen in the event of Tory Brexit or no deal?We are.
General mood... I dunno
A lot of people want to leave regardless
More people didn't vote before than voted either leave or remain... I suspect a good chunk of those don't want a 2nd referendum and still don't care
Doubt we'll have a recession if the fudge goes through, more slow growth.
That’s okay, pal.We suffer from labour divisions rather than conservative...
Northern Ireland becomes a far bigger problem as he's not exactly seen as neutral on the issue
The pound probably crashes to parity or lower with the euro
The corbynistas Blame Blair
And Satan skates to work
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Isn't it technically a recession if your GDP is negative? That's what most economists are predicting aren't they?
For you and us.
Experts are predicting a global recession in 2020 among many other things.
If the fudge goes through it's a soft Brexit with us still locked into the CU and SM for an undetermined amount of time.
There's been a recession predicted 'within 4 months' if we hard Brexit but the UK economy has remained very resilient so far since the vote, against the majority of predictions (1.5% annual growth this year), so I don't see why that should change after the fudge, unless some broader global economic crisis occurs.
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There's always the potential for a riot in the UK. We've a long and proud history of civil disorder. But any "serious backlash" is only likely to come from the extreme and active right and there's feck all of them. Look at that UKIP protest outside Downing Street - two people.
The vast majority of those who voted Brexit are just peaceful law abiding citizens like everyone else.
'Serious backlash' will be over in the blink of an eye. As you say, it will be a minority of right wing extremists. It will be close to insignificant. Look at the pro-Brexit marches for a strength of feeling test.
Isn't the technical definition 2 quarters of negative growth... Which probably won't happen in 4 months
Yes for sure. The best of the worst.
The leavers can't even say they didn't get what they voted for, they're leaving the EU on 29th March. They don't seem very happy about it. Nor are the Remainers.
May was right, the country is now united, everyone is unhappy.
The alternative is brexit. The problem is that 85% of Westminster, the corporate banks & businesses, and the media don't want it. This is why May is being advised to deliver it in name only, but in reality keep things as they are. However, everyone knows (including leavers) that our current status in the EU is better than her deal. So now everyones frustrated with the situation. Labour and the Lib Dems would be right to reject her deal, because 'no brexit' is better than this deal. The EU realises that the UK government has no stomach for a no deal scenario, so they can now demand anything they want. They also know there is huge pressure mounting to force another vote, but this time they know that the british people have lost confidence in any shambolic government to deliver it, and this might tip the balance.
The will of the people is a flawed argument anyway seeing as nobody based their votes on facts. Both leave and remain had awful campaigns
I meant specifically wrt the great deal he thinks they can get.