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rcoobc said:
The EU does have its own territory and population. Being supplimentary or not, that may be your definition but I'd argue your are finding arbitrary items to make a point. The constitution countries of the UK have effective supplementary citizenship. The same is true of sovereignty.

Now if that is your definition, it is true that the EU is not a country and neither is England. But it's very arbirtary as if it was written into the constitution that England could leave the union whenever it wanted, the UK would not be a country... Which is clearly nonsense.

Again if England had sovreignty and let the UK government by consent.. the UK would not be a country. This is clearly nonsense
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It's not my definition, it's the legal attributes of a nation state. I'm not daft enough to make that up.

The point about supplementary citizenship is the art 20 of the TEC and the point about the attributes is every constitutional courses you will find.
 
JPRouve said:
To make it simple, the territory is still linked the its nation and sovereign. For example, when a foreign national owns the rights to a land in the UK, that part of the territory remains british it doesn't become the foreign national's territory. You can own the rights to the land but not the land itself.
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Is that different to a UK citizen? No
 
rcoobc said:
Is that different to a UK citizen? No
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No it's the same, when you own a land it's still a british territory, it's not rcoobc territory, you are under the nation state's jurisdiction. Now regarding the EU, the EU has no claim on UK's or France's territory, all the rights are given/loaned by member states.
 
Brilliant from Fintan O'Toole

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/19/brexiters-theresa-may-northern-ireland
If you listen to some of the more anguished Brexiters, you might get the impression that the Irish border is a devious plot against the people of the neighbouring island, a snare invented by the Irish to trap Britain in European vassalage. In reality, it was created at Westminster, through the Government of Ireland Act, which became law in May 1921. It is, first and foremost, a British problem and a British responsibility. At the heart of the current impasse over Brexit is a shocking refusal to accept that responsibility
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Silva said:
jesus feck, that's the kind of thing you'd expect from an insipid FBPE shitposter not an actual campaign poster that someone was paid to think about
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Its the kind of thing you'd expect from campaigners well known for inciting outrage and using dirty tactics as tools to reach their goals...
 
Silva said:
randoms with placards are fine tbh, the only problem with those is that guy who clearly added the "this" after he'd written the rest of the sign, if you're gonna go for the hitler comparison you should commit to it
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Shit I didn't notice that, your right.
 
And the award for worse sign goes to..................
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Even though I can't see it, it's fun looking at brexiteers squeel at the thought of another referendum.
 
It is pretty staggering that a movement, that has seemingly chosen Blair and Ali Campbell to be its most frequent on air representatives, is trying to make the argument that large marches through London shouldn't be ignored.



Then again it is also a movement trying to make out that it's concerned about austerity after Brexit, whilst marching alongside politicians who have been in favour of it for the best part of a decade.
 
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Klopper76 said:
What is this?

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British empire...
Militarily imposing our will on less developed countries and then taking advantage of its people and resource... Whilst making some cushy jobs for the boys generally living it up and living like a king...

Hummmm fire up the gunboats and let's head to the Maldives... My application for high commissioner is in the post!

Not sure what the UN would make of our empire stuff these days but hey we have a security council veto so let's go for it
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Dobba said:
It is pretty staggering that a movement, that has seemingly chosen Blair and Ali Campbell to be its most frequent on air representatives, is trying to make the argument that large marches through London shouldn't be ignored.



Then again it is also a movement trying to make out that it's concerned about austerity after Brexit, whilst marching alongside politicians who have been in favour of it for the best part of a decade.
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Have many of Labour's current frontline figures have actually backed the idea of a second vote?

If I was a British remainer I would want the current opposition to be reacting to the shambles that Brexit has become by actually opposing Brexit and demanding a second vote. Watching the likes of Campbell and Blair lead the way would make me wonder why less objectionable Labour figures aren't fronting the campaign if they actually represent my concerns.

A quick look at the leader of the opposition's twitter feed shows him speaking about his role in the campaign against Pinochet twenty years ago but saying nothing about the campaign against Brexit that has seen hundreds of thousands of people marching in his nation's capital today. That can't be right.
 
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The march will be futile in the end. Tories, who won't call an election would be committing suicide calling for another vote.
Honestly feel they would rather crash the country than harm the party.
People should have informed themselves of what was at stake before the referendum.
 
Remember when >2% of the population turned out in London to protest against the Iraq war and were ignored and then barely a decade later their reservations were proved to be absolutely right?

Yeah good times, let’s do it all over again.
 
niMic said:
There definitely wasn't ever billions in the British Empire. He should at least get his jingoistic statistics right.
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Historians and statisticians are among the experts who shan't be listened to when the revolution comes.
 
Dobba said:
It is pretty staggering that a movement, that has seemingly chosen Blair and Ali Campbell to be its most frequent on air representatives, is trying to make the argument that large marches through London shouldn't be ignored.

Then again it is also a movement trying to make out that it's concerned about austerity after Brexit, whilst marching alongside politicians who have been in favour of it for the best part of a decade.
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And yet maybe if they'd have listened to that march they wouldn't have dragged the UK into a disastrous decision that roughly half the country supported at the time....but strangely enough you'll find almost no one who admits to supporting it now.
 
The mere fact that renowned chancer Boris Johnson was involved should've led people to choose any other option bar his self-interested scam de jour.
 
Feckin Independent!
Now they’ve finally come out with the 2nd referendum talk.
I don’t care one way or the other about Brexit, that’s the UK choice, but the Independent has been bang out of order for quite a while now.
 
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Dobba said:
It is pretty staggering that a movement, that has seemingly chosen Blair and Ali Campbell to be its most frequent on air representatives, is trying to make the argument that large marches through London shouldn't be ignored.



Then again it is also a movement trying to make out that it's concerned about austerity after Brexit, whilst marching alongside politicians who have been in favour of it for the best part of a decade.
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You're right. Perhaps the leader of the opposition could have found some time to do some opposing?
 
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