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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I have a serious question.

What would be some advantages of Brexit.

none, zilch, loads of agro plus plus plus..

here is still hoping that it does not pass through parliament and without needing a revolution this tory goverment falls and hopefully somebody with vision and a plan comes in and puts the UK at the centre of the EU where it should be!
 
Well it makes more sense in a "no-deal" brexit to keep the current two headquarters rather than the original simplification idea. One HQ in Britain, and one in Rotterdam as they have at present is perfect for them going forward if it's a no deal.
Sky news reckon the main driver in the move was fear of takeover, with Holland having tougher takeover laws than the UK. Large institutional shareholders voted the move down as the share price would have dropped if they left the FTSE. Whether that's the end of it though I don't know.
 
Sky news reckon the main driver in the move was fear of takeover, with Holland having tougher takeover laws than the UK. Large institutional shareholders voted the move down as the share price would have dropped if they left the FTSE. Whether that's the end of it though I don't know.
They would have been booted off the FTSE 100
 
none, zilch, loads of agro plus plus plus..

here is still hoping that it does not pass through parliament and without needing a revolution this tory goverment falls and hopefully somebody with vision and a plan comes in and puts the UK at the centre of the EU where it should be!

Who the feck would that be then?
 
none, zilch, loads of agro plus plus plus..

here is still hoping that it does not pass through parliament and without needing a revolution this tory goverment falls and hopefully somebody with vision and a plan comes in and puts the UK at the centre of the EU where it should be!
Mate this is ridiculous, the UK is an island on the edge of Europe, you really want to move the entire island to the center of Europe?

Actually, it would get rid of the Swiss so maybe it's a good idea.
 
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I told my English friend how brexit is unfortunate.

He tells me “ignore the negativity. You’ll see UK will be the place to be”

What exactly is the cause for some English people still thinking this way?
 
I told my English friend how brexit is unfortunate.

He tells me “ignore the negativity. You’ll see UK will be the place to be”

What exactly is the cause for some English people still thinking this way?
Normal British bluster.
 
I told my English friend how brexit is unfortunate.

He tells me “ignore the negativity. You’ll see UK will be the place to be”

What exactly is the cause for some English people still thinking this way?
The Daily Mail
 
EU expect deal by end of year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45768848

The only problem is I'm not sure I can envisage any deal she can get through the UK parliament (if labour stick to voting gainst it)
Will be interesting though as we know there will probably be 20-40 or so tory MP's who vote against whatever the deal

So it will be take the deal or hard brexit and it will be interesting to see how labour handle that and even if they could get enough MPs to effectively enforce a hard brexit
 
EU expect deal by end of year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45768848

The only problem is I'm not sure I can envisage any deal she can get through the UK parliament (if labour stick to voting gainst it)
Will be interesting though as we know there will probably be 20-40 or so tory MP's who vote against whatever the deal

So it will be take the deal or hard brexit and it will be interesting to see how labour handle that and even if they could get enough MPs to effectively enforce a hard brexit
I think Tory MPs will get in line actually. Labour Brexiters will probably defy the whip too.
 
I have a serious question.

What would be some advantages of Brexit.
In the short to medium term the advantages are all for a small number of people who will make a profit from the chaos / turmoil that ensues.

So traders on the right side of predicting events will make a handsome profit.
If you have stockpiles of goods that are in short supply you will make a profit
Some will make money picking over the financial corpses of a number of organisations that go to the wall as a result of brexit / challenging economic conditions.

Some new enterprises will set up to try and offset / monetise the new conditions - Particularly in the logistics area to assist with things like Bonded Warehouses / refugee centres / Customs clearances / visa applications etc.

Many more International students will get places at UK Universities to offset the dramatic fall in applications from EU Students. UK students will be more restricted in their University choices so there will be a larger pool of student labour in the UK.

In the medium to long term the question really comes down to how the EU performs. If the EU continues to provide prosperity and overcomes the recent growth in nationalism then the UK's long term economic future looks very gloomy. The last time UK struck out on its own from Europe there were unconquered lands to discover and colonise and largely uncontested ocean it could dominate with the largest fleet of Navy and "privateers" or pirates to dominate and intimidate the opposition. It is highly unlikely we would see a new economic empire forming, as much of the decision making will move to Europe.

I honestly believe the only possible upside to Brexit would be if the EU completely rips itself apart due to issues with Agricultural policy / nationalism / another yugoslavia type civil ear happening in a satellite state. I think some of the Brexiteers fantasies are that the UK's withdrawal will somehow bring the about but the indicators are that the rest of Europe will not fragment as their media has not had an anti eu agenda for decades like the UK had.

Ultimately in the long term we will probably have to go through the process of re-entering the EU as a much reduced member in terms of influence and economic size somewhere along the lines of say Spain.
 
Yes, which would be acceptance of the dominion of the British over parts of and the people of Ireland... Saying some words in a foreign language isn't really the root of thr issue is it. Or do you think that's the reason?
I think it could be a deal breaker for some and as I said they will watch on while the others make them look very good in doing nothing.
 
Theresa May - "Europe, give us free market access or we'll put in a hard border and let a region inside our border descend into violence by going back on an agreement with dangerous paramilitary organisations..."

Is this woman fecking stupid? How is that even a position of negotiation. Arlene Foster is going to guarantee a no deal brexit.
 
How's this for an idea?

Why don't we scrap the whole thing and actually get on with governing the country instead of wasting all the parliamentary time on this crap?
There's talk that Trump is galvanising the electorate in America, making people more politically aware. Do you think that Brexit is having the same effect in Britain? It's probably a stupid question, but surely people in Britain are realising that they need to take more notice of what's going on or you end up in these types of situations... Arlene Foster is part of a negotiating team for Brexit! How does that happen?
 
There's talk that Trump is galvanising the electorate in America, making people more politically aware. Do you think that Brexit is having the same effect in Britain? It's probably a stupid question, but surely people in Britain are realising that they need to take more notice of what's going on or you end up in these types of situations... Arlene Foster is part of a negotiating team for Brexit! How does that happen?
Let's wait until the mid terms in the USA to find out how much people are paying attention. As for here yeah the majority of people don't give a shit about Brexit.
 


Oh... I get it now. It’s about “feelings”. Brexiteers have fallen out of love with Europe and are happy to live the rest of their lives in a worse off position because they’ll no longer be with someone they don’t love. That’s a great analogy, really takes the complexities and nuances of something absolutely nothing like a 1-1 relationship between two people into account.