We're in 2018 man, although germany are still trying to rule europe, nobody is being occupied. Just ask remainers and the peace the eu brought to everyone.
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Fukk off you tedious kunt. This is not a thread just about ireland
It's not really arbitrary, it's been 250 employees for as long as I can remember.
That escalated pretty quickly.
You are tedious with your netherlands remarks
N.I. is part of brexit and I am interested in the consequence. You don't of course, as a good proof, of what I just said.
Also, border with ireland is the most important rock right now in the brexit negotiations. So if you don't like it, just trhwo me your awesome remarks on netherlands that eveybody enjoys so much and I will engage merrily
It is in that why not 200 or 300, but yep I guess you have to pick some number or other.
50 for medium, 250 for large.
Please argue nicely.
I really dont think its as simple as you make it out to be; but i am happy to be corrected by people from NI.
An occupation is normally what happens after you're conquered.
As you said is not simple. As is not as simple that only N.I. can understand situations that others can relate. Hey call me emphatic pussy if you want.
And I am not trying to correct, is a simple opinion. Remark of simple.
And say what you want. During a majority of G.B. history, Irish didn't want to be part of it, or I have been lied
but yeah, now stanley is right. This is not a thread about irland. though the irish border it is
Well I for one will be more content to go along with it, more assured that it is actually the democratic will of the people with a better understanding of the situation. Rather than believing we have all been conned by dodgy/corrupt salesmen to chop our own legs off on the promise we might get new better legs in 20 years time.
You are an emphatic pussy.
If things get better for them, then I'll agree with you. On the other hand you could always cut your arm off if you scratch your finger.
One thing I can congratulate the British government on is convincing people that the hardship of people is nothing to do with them.
PS I don't wear slippers and gave up smoking last year.
More about the Labour Party conference which is more irrelevant.
I think the problem with a hard brexit will be it will mean massively policing our borders and we do not have the resources in place to do that or even close.
So if we can't control our borders and entry points we can't stop immigration at all. If we had a softer brexit or stayed in customs union then the EU woild remain as a buffer to absorb some of the migration.
People in hard times can only vote against the vote put before them. Govt policies at such a time are irrelevant. Dont tell people sleeping rough that its better to sleep rough in the eu cos it makes no difference, despite their plight being home grown.
You were occupiers, explain to me how you werent.
Actually it is because this is what it all comes down to. So stop with the aggro
Its 2018. Germans were occupiers of Holland in the 40s, the Dutch have moved on. Perhaps they're more civilised.
Yeah? Germany and Holland arent divided are they?
Ah now your views on Brexit make more sense - British arrogance.
That's not the word that you were looking for. The link makes no sense.
What ? It's nearly 1am here so your going to have to spell it out
I meant to say that the link that he made was senseless and that arrogance was a euphemism. Sorry for the poor syntax.
Oh right, no worries.
Edit - Just read the post again and my bad I get it now(I've very tired.)
Occupation during WWII versus hundreds and hundreds of years of systematic deliberate attempts to eradicate culture including elimination of the native language, giving the best land to foreign loyalists, starvation resulting in famine, and part of the island still being under control of the same occupier (with support from barely half the population, the other half still seeing them as occupiers).
I reckon occupation is not such an outlandish term when you look at it from certain viewpoints. And I say this fully cognisant of the fact that I posted Articles 2 and 3 of the Constitution yesterday.
I reckon occupation is not such an outlandish term when you look at it from certain viewpoints. And I say this fully cognisant of the fact that I posted Articles 2 and 3 of the Constitution yesterday.
Ah now your views on Brexit make more sense - British arrogance.
That, and the assurance of enjoying the safety of the continent while the brown stuff hits the rotary device on the other side of the canal....
Thanks for posting that link - The bit about unionists trying to stop an amendment to the constitution (giving them what they want) just in order to try and derail the GFA just shows you how some are willing to cut off their nose to spite their face in NI politics - That's what makes me so nervous about how brexit could affect things. There is no way to be sure how the DUP will react to anything once we get down to final negotiations.
Who are the occupiers in Northern Ireland? Ancestors of people who conquered hundreds of years ago?
That is a very simplistic outlook on a complex subject.
They are quite easy to predict actually as to be fair to them they have been pretty consistent throughout brexit (although their views are insane) - they want a no deal brexit - they want this without a hard border (probably impossible) but if is between having a hard border or a soft brexit they would take a hard border - they do not want to be treated differently from the rest of the UK even if that means that NI is hit the hardest by the outcome. In short, they view being part of the UK as more important than the views of people in NI (who voted remain), the economy and the welfare of their own people.
To say I detest the DUP is an understatement - what is particularly repulsive at the moment is that they are trying to turn brexit into an orange/green topic which is clearly bullshit but they want to convince people that a hard brexit/no deal is what Unionists should support and that 'them-un's' on the Republican side want to remain. This is nonsense of course but unfortunately it has been proven time and time again that this strategy does work here and I'd be worried that if another vote was to happen, specific to NI, people would believe that narrative and support the DUP.
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You mean the French/Viking/Normans?
Isn't he referring to the descendants of the English and Scottish protestant settlers of the early 1600s?
We know who he is referring to but we are pointing out that there have been many 'occupiers' of Northern Ireland over the years.
What exactly is your point here?
Labour won't put 2nd Brexit referendum in manifesto if there's early election
According to Rebecca Long-Bailey, the shadow business secretary
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...cts-mps-call-for-general-strike-politics-live
According to Rebecca Long-Bailey, the shadow business secretary
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...cts-mps-call-for-general-strike-politics-live
I thought that was fairly obvious - talking about 'occupiers' is a very simplistic view of the history here - there have been many 'occupiers' here over the years all of which have impacted the culture of the place and the British are just one of a long list. There is no current occupier in Northern Ireland and to suggest there is I'm afraid is ignorance and/or midguided romanticism. This is getting wildly off-topic but sometimes when you read utter nonsense you need to challenge it.
At the same time, only one of those previous occupiers’ governments still exist and are still holding land on the island of Ireland.
I’d say that the Native Americans would still see the United States as occupiers of their land, even though a couple hundred years have passed since our government conquered it.
Also, when viewed in the context of how Brexit could affect the border between NI and the ROI, it makes sense to understand the cause of frustration about a possible change in that border’s status.
It is not an occupation though - if a border poll took place today nobody really knows what would happen - the Brits have gone from NI - that happened as part of the GFA.