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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I was in the UK when decimalisation was introduced, and the locals could not stop complaining about, and some still do now.



Sadly, I fear there is still a long way further to fall.
17.4 million voters should be held personally responsible. Ignorance is no excuse.

Tuning in for the next episode of "Rats leaving the sinking ship"

So they should be moaning, the greatest rip off ever was the euro. I'm not an old fecker like you but i would have been pissed off, i still hate the euro to this very day.
 
Why would it need to be in Scotland?

Maidenhead's pretty safe.

I think it'll be Rees-Mogg, though. It's the most ridiculous of the possibilities so it's gotta be the one that we end up with.

It wouldn't need to be in Scotland, but considering how much she's talked up her credentials up here and how much she's talked about standing up for Scotland, she'd catch a reasonable amount of flak if she moved down south for the convenience of not being an MP here. At best she could maybe take Mundell's seat if he ever fecks off because that's as close as you get to a safe Tory seat north of the border...but even then, there's still an element of risk. But yeah, her fecking off down south might kinda damage the Tory vote up here and lose them some of the seats they've gained.
 
BBC news spinning it as "strengthening May's position."

Auntie propaganda .

I mean...for as bad as it all is, you could argue that if she pulls through then it has. Gotten rid of Boris and replaced him with a Remainer, and gotten rid of Davis who's been a massive pain in the arse for her. True, her position remains tenuous, but by sheer virtue of the fact that nobody else seems to want to be the one who deals the mess of Brexit, she might last for a while yet.
 
Is it too late for the UK to abandon leaving plans completely and stay fully within the EU?

Nope. If the UK government wanted to pull article 50, it’s not like the EU are going to just take a big economic hit from a hard Brexit just on a small legal technicality.
 
I mean...for as bad as it all is, you could argue that if she pulls through then it has. Gotten rid of Boris and replaced him with a Remainer, and gotten rid of Davis who's been a massive pain in the arse for her. True, her position remains tenuous, but by sheer virtue of the fact that nobody else seems to want to be the one who deals the mess of Brexit, she might last for a while yet.

It puts all her enemies outside the cabinet though, and that’s dangerous. That old adage about keeping your friends close is appropriate here.
 
It puts all her enemies outside the cabinet though, and that’s dangerous. That old adage about keeping your friends close is appropriate here.

Sort of...but then if they don't challenge now then they're demonstrating they don't have a leg to stand on, and that they don't want to deal with Brexit at all.
 
Why does nobody in the leave camp have the balls to grab this thing by the throat and directly challenge May?

Because most of them realise their vision of a hard Brexit is pure fantasy, and none of them particularly want the responsibility of it ultimately failing. Easier to let May fluff Brexit and try to take over afterwards.
 
Because most of them realise their vision of a hard Brexit is pure fantasy, and none of them particularly want the responsibility of it ultimately failing. Easier to let May fluff Brexit and try to take over afterwards.


But they want it to happen, yes? FFS if you believe in it then fecking stand up for it.
 
But they want it to happen, yes? FFS if you believe in it then fecking stand up for it.

Some do. Boris is probably the most prominent of them and never really cared either way. His plan was for Leave to lose and then win props with the membership and Eurosceptic MP's when Cameron stepped down a year or so afterwards. Others like the idea of it but have deluded themselves into thinking it'd somehow be workable with issues like NI etc, and have privately probably realised it doesn't work. Others who like the idea of it realised it wouldn't work and just backed it to advance their careers within the Tory party.
 
Some do. Boris is probably the most prominent of them and never really cared either way. His plan was for Leave to lose and then win props with the membership and Eurosceptic MP's when Cameron stepped down a year or so afterwards. Others like the idea of it but have deluded themselves into thinking it'd somehow be workable with issues like NI etc, and have privately probably realised it doesn't work. Others who like the idea of it realised it wouldn't work and just backed it to advance their careers within the Tory party.
Some believe in it but think it will be painful to begin with before it gets better and don't fancy trying to campaign on 'just give it 5-10 years, I promise everything will be great then' whilst everything seems to be going terribly.
 
Down in amongst the streets tonight
Books will burn, people laugh and cry in their turmoil
(Turmoil turns rejoiceful).

Shed your fears and lose your guilt
Tonight we burn responsibility in the fire.
We'll watch the flames grow higher!
But if you get too burnt, you can't come back home.

And as I was standing by the edge
I could see the faces of those led pissing themselves laughing
(And the flames grew higher).
Their mad eyes bulged, their flushed faces said
'The weak get crushed as the strong grow stronger.'

We feast on flesh and drink on blood
Live by fear and despise love in a crisis
(What with today's high prices?)
Bring some paper and bring some wood
Bring what's left of all your love for the fire...
 
Down in amongst the streets tonight
Books will burn, people laugh and cry in their turmoil
(Turmoil turns rejoiceful).

Shed your fears and lose your guilt
Tonight we burn responsibility in the fire.
We'll watch the flames grow higher!
But if you get too burnt, you can't come back home.

And as I was standing by the edge
I could see the faces of those led pissing themselves laughing
(And the flames grew higher).
Their mad eyes bulged, their flushed faces said
'The weak get crushed as the strong grow stronger.'

We feast on flesh and drink on blood
Live by fear and despise love in a crisis
(What with today's high prices?)
Bring some paper and bring some wood
Bring what's left of all your love for the fire...
The Jam, song about Nazis
 
No.

To my knowledge, we've triggered but there's nothing to say we can't admit we were being stupid and stay in. I'm pretty sure that's even been confirmed by Tusk?
Suggested by Trusk or Batnier i think, but we are in untested waters here.
 
Suggested by Trusk or Batnier i think, but we are in untested waters here.
Thats what I thought.

"Writing in the Guardian, British lawyer Jessica Simor QC, from Matrix chambers, claims she has been informed by “two good sources” that Theresa May has received legal advice informing her that “the Article 50 notification can be withdrawn by the UK at any time before 29 March 2019 resulting in the UK remaining in the EU on its current favourable terms.”
 
This shitshow just proves British politics are a huge waste of time. Everyone's preening and puffing and nobody does anything of any substance.

If the government wants to stay in, then just stay in and take the pie to the face from the EU. But if that happens, we can stop pretending that the vote of the British public matters any more. All these 'referendums' and general 'elections' would just be a massive waste of time and paper.
 
This shitshow just proves British politics are a huge waste of time. Everyone's preening and puffing and nobody does anything of any substance.

If the government wants to stay in, then just stay in and take the pie to the face from the EU. But if that happens, we can stop pretending that the vote of the British public matters any more. All these 'referendums' and general 'elections' would just be a massive waste of time and paper.

Referendums and General Elections are very different things. We have a Westminster Democracy to avoid the sort of chaos this referendum has caused.

In most countries only changes to the constitution can go to referendums and they can't be simply used to placate one wing of a political party by a piss weak leader, as was the case with Brexit.