I've been caught up in the World Cup. On a serious note, what is May's proposal, an EEA Norway model?
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Another referrendum wont happen - neither the Tory or Labour party want one. I think she will push through her plans, which will get rejected by the EU. Alternatively, she will get voted out and replaced by somebody like Rees-Mogg but I can't see it happening - nobody will want to risk the Government falling (which, arguably, they have done already) Corbyn coming in through the back door.
It sounds like a few people's choice would be to have another referrendum, but either not allow pensioners to vote or give them, like, half a vote? This is bizarre - pensioners aren't to "blame".
It sounds like a few people's choice would be to have another referrendum, but either not allow pensioners to vote or give them, like, half a vote? This is bizarre - pensioners aren't to "blame".
God knows
I’ve heard worse ideas..
I feel like no progress has been made at all. Same ideas getting thrown around as 12 months ago and no progress.
A backhanded second Brexit vote would be to have a snap election and whoever has the best Euro strategy would get elected.
He is shit at both to be fair.
National level
Who? also resigns
There is a morbid fascination in watchimg how this unfolds, but it is done with a heavy heart.
Hard border no, controlled border yes. If you don't have custom checks outside of a custom agreement then you have to grant that right to every WTO members, it's terrible for the UK and every single EU members.
But surely these people - most of whom have lived through WW2 and knew life before the EU - have a lot more wisdom, and thus their vote should almost mean more? Also, the vast majority will have children and grandchildren that they will want to make the UK a better place for - most people will know that a parent would do absolutely anything for their children and grandchildren. Perhaps we owe our elders a bit more respect, no?
Just hate the fact people find the racist, contemptible, incompetent bigot funny. All the tributes praising his personality and so-called charisma, when the reality is he is a cowardly, self-serving cnut.
Department of Transport, had to google that one.
Cracking resignation, more bus stuff at PMQs please
Cracking resignation, more bus stuff at PMQs please
I genuinely think the Tories know the public is bored of brexit. Really bored of brexit. as Danny says, no one knows or cares what a customs agreement is. No one cares.
The powers behind the powers in the Tory party are ready to move on. They want a simple brexit, that doesn't fook the UK economy and then they can ditch Theresa for Ruth or someone else
The powers behind the powers in the Tory party are ready to move on. They want a simple brexit, that doesn't fook the UK economy and then they can ditch Theresa for Ruth or someone else
Part of the issue with that (besides the economic uncertainty) is timeings...
Let's assume there is a conservative leadership election (timescale 2 months)
Then the winner calls a snap general election (another 3 months)
Negotiations for whoever wins can start in say November / December... Which is too late to actually negotiate a deal... So regardless of who wins the only deal in that scenario is no deal
1. Simple quick clean brexit that doesn't feck the economy
2. Ditch Theresa.
3. Put Ruth or Javid in.
Tory 1.2.3 of surviving to 2020
2. Ditch Theresa.
3. Put Ruth or Javid in.
Tory 1.2.3 of surviving to 2020
I'm sure/hopeful European leaders would extend timelines. Surely it is also in their interest.
It didn’t seem to work out like that when huge numbers of them (including my own parents) chose to completely piss all over the wishes of the younger generations and take away a wide range of freedoms we were extremely proud to have.
Btw, lets give over with the WW2 stuff. The number of people who were old enough to actually serve in WW2 is pretty small these days, and plenty of them are pro-Remain.
Also the whole age/wisdom thing isn’t necessarily holding up very well in a world where technology (and culture) is changing at an exponential rate. What was true 20 years ago is often obsolete today, so the experiences of 70+ years ago have limited value. Obviously some stuff is still very useful, but considering people start to accept new information/change at a slower rate as they get older, they can often try and solve today’s problems with yesterday’s solutions.
Anyway, I’m not trying to slate old people, but asking them to decide how younger generations will live is not a particular great idea for those younger generations.
Most 35 year olds didn't go to school with a Polish kid, or a Romanian kid, or a Hunagaria kid. But they might have made friends with an indian kid, who's their parents disapproved of.
Before that it was the Irish. Before that it was Jewish kids probably. Before that the Catholics.
Before that it was the Irish. Before that it was Jewish kids probably. Before that the Catholics.
Most are post WWII babyboomers (to have lived through the war as an adult, you’d be pushing 100). Like old people everywhere, they are prey to the nostalgia that things used to be better and, in a specifically British context, they imbibed a sense of British greatness from the WWII victory achieved by their parents (mixed with an exaggerated sense of the bond with the USA) and never emotionally accepted the idea of Britain sitting down as an equal partner to our continental neighbours. I doubt they actively wish to do their children and grandchildren harm but the world has passed them by and their ignorance and delusions are causing a lot of problems.
Most are post WWII babyboomers (to have lived through the war as an adult, you’d be pushing 100). Like old people everywhere, they are prey to the nostalgia that things used to be better and, in a specifically British context, they imbibed a sense of British greatness from the WWII victory achieved by their parents (mixed with an exaggerated sense of the bond with the USA) and never emotionally accepted the idea of Britain sitting down as an equal partner to our continental neighbours. I doubt they actively wish to do their children and grandchildren harm but the world has passed them by and their ignorance and delusions are causing a lot of problems.
The guy, like BREXIT Britain is a joke!
Brexit really could be thought of revenge of the marginalised baby boomers
It's actually a bit simpler than that, the poor people from their generation die younger and the rich old twats keep on voting
How would they get Ruth into Parliament?
Somebody resign a very safe seat?
There isn't really a safe Tory seat in Scotland.
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Without a deal the good people of Britain are royally fecked … ironic, eh?
True. But listen to how many older people apparently think that freedom of movement just means that a few posh kids can go get jobs abroad. They haven’t processed that the vast number of Brits overseas now are just normal working and middle class people exploring opportunities they could never have imagined back before the EU.
Obviously you can find counter examples for everything (on both sides), and I’m certainly heavily biased on the issue, but I just don’t buy into the idea that age automatically means wisdom. Especially as plenty of dumb people get old too.
That's brutal.
Interesting Juncker's tweet on the possibility of Britain remaining and Farage's simultaneous announcement of his return.
They smell what is inevitable - The People's Vote.
They smell what is inevitable - The People's Vote.
Why would it need to be in Scotland?
Maidenhead's pretty safe.
I think it'll be Rees-Mogg, though. It's the most ridiculous of the possibilities so it's gotta be the one that we end up with.
Speaking to a few people in the know a number of Brexit supporting MPs have illusions of grandeur. Still, think Britain rules the waves. Its incredibly easy to realise the bigger trading block is better for business and the workforce.
Sly conspiracy nut side of me still thinks May has been working to sabotage Brexit from the beginning for the sake of the country.
So... what does this actually mean?
Without the EU workers, we'd be in a royal mess. If you could just tweak immigration law to read only people with a definite job is allowed to stay or claim any benefit in the country I would think it would appease a lot of Brexit voters.True. But listen to how many older people apparently think that freedom of movement just means that a few posh kids can go get jobs abroad. They haven’t processed that the vast number of Brits overseas now are just normal working and middle class people exploring opportunities they could never have imagined back before the EU.
Obviously you can find counter examples for everything (on both sides), and I’m certainly heavily biased on the issue, but I just don’t buy into the idea that age automatically means wisdom. Especially as plenty of dumb people get old too.
I wonder would she be looked back on favourably if thats how it ends. She'd probably save the conservative party while she was at it, despite their best efforts.
There is not anyone that has delivered a solid reason why this would be economically (as opposed to emotionally) uplifting. And yet here we are?
A European team will win the WC.