You are brittish. You know cake and eat it
Must be that you had been away for too long and you are losing the brittish charm
Sarcasm is basically the core of all British charm, I’m sorry it slipped over your head.
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Sarcasm is basically the core of all British charm, I’m sorry it slipped over your head.
Forget brexit for a second. StudenSt of history, has there been a weaker PM than this? I almost feel sorry for her. Put her out of her misery ffs.
Boris Johnson is shitting on your corn flakes, PM
"Boris has strong views on breakfast, but so do I!"
"Boris has strong views on breakfast, but so do I!"
Painful viewing. All politicians are vacuous in their public rhetoric to some extent so as not to attract controversy, but she's dreadfully obvious when dodging questions.
and Brexit is now the right move!
Not in my lifetime, Chamberlain possibly. Any other PM would have sacked Johnson.
Apart from looking like a rabbit in the headlights and the obvious terror of losing her job, all the other things were untrue as well.
She didn't get the Joint Report done because as soon as she got back to the UK, she denied it and also it's still not in legal text. The implementation/transition period is not agreed until all the other points have been resolved including the Irish border and the backstop will be rejected. She has achieved absolutely nothing.
If you replace her, who takes her place, that may be even more scary.
Sarcasm is basically the core of all British charm, I’m sorry it slipped over your head.
I must have some brtitish genes in me then
Sounds like a solid plan mate, can't see you having any problems with it after Brexit.
I was under the impression it was much easier than all of that to move goods and services across the EU and Australia than that.
Isnt there an agreement to recognise the standards between the two areas? Ill try and find the information that I read, pretty sure EU is Australias largest trading partner and that there are existing agreements. But if youre in that business then you probably know a lot more than me about it.
8 months away and there doesn't exist even a basis for a negotiation. Don't expect for any of the architects of this mess to be about within 3 months of the March 19th date. Boris, Davis, Fox, Gove - they'll all find a way of temporarily leaving front line politics just before the shit makes contact with the fan. Enough time to distance themselves from the mess it'll be.
"Well if I was in charge that wouldn't have happened"
"Well if I was in charge that wouldn't have happened"
There is a planned FTA, the negotiations will start in the near future but they have been authorized only since last week. There is a mutual recognition agreement but it's not akin to no checks, it just makes it simpler, faster and cheaper than regular customs, the authorities still can and actually do check batches.
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/australia/
Boris Johnson has been trying to get himself sacked for a long time now
Scapegoat confirmed.
In fairness, the previous Labour government never sacked Boris Johnson, so why should she?
At what point does this stop? Because it seems even those in power realise it will be a shitstorm, even if they won't admit as much. People just seem to be reluctantly accepting it, even if the opinion polls show the majority think it is being handled badly.
There will still be customs checks though.
@JPRouve has covered it very well
I would add that about 77% of Australia's exports go to Asia (only 4.6% to the UK) , see table below, proximity plays a major part and freight is very expensive .
https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/aus/
Additionally I have shipped to Australia from non-EU countries (which the UK will be by April next year) and life gets a lot more complicated.
The country I have shipped to the most from non-EU countries is the USA.
Reading the Daily Mail comments, they already have May as the one to blame.
May was right about one thing, the country has united, both Remainers and Brexiters agree she's hopeless.
But he'll be ok on his EU salary and EU Pension of 72,000 a year .
I actually don't get it, is he ignoring the millions of people that work for companies that are directly linked to the single market?
I think this is what is behind the ‘just get on with it’ malaise. People don’t understand that all the things they do care about face getting considerably worse if Brexit fecks up. It’s just seen as something that doesn’t effect real people’s lives.
Disagree completely with that sentiment and imo, part of the reason we are in this situation.
Potentially losing your job or being forced to move are big issues. You won't be doing alright if you've got no job. Also not sure what he think's the countries main priority is but if it's austerity, that will likely increase under a post-Brexit Tory government.
His answer is why people are worried about Brexit, because they don't know what their future is made of. The first time I heard about Brexit it was my issue with it, it's that people championing it don't know where they are heading to and they can't know because it's not a decision that they can take alone, unless the plan is to have no special interaction with foreign countries and markets, in that case you know what will happen.
He says austerity is a more pressing issue.
We've had austerity for 8 years and I'd like to know if he thinks brexit won't impact the degree of austerity
We've had austerity for 8 years and I'd like to know if he thinks brexit won't impact the degree of austerity
That was Jeremy Corybn's former spokesman? Ffs..
We know by words, plans and in some cases actions that Brexit will see a huge drop in outside investment in the UK. Is the hope of those allied to Corbyn that a fall in private investment will provide the state an opportunity to step in? There will be a huge opportunity for a hypothetical Corbyn govt to seize effective control of a number of industries as various sectors collapse and are in need of rescue in the post-Brexit economy.
Russians interfering in foreign votes again?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/09/arron-banks-russia-brexit-meeting
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/09/arron-banks-russia-brexit-meeting
Oakeshott isn't a journalist, she's a slime bag who sat on this information for 2 years because it had potential to harm a political cause she supported. Think I've said this on here but she really is the most obnoxious "journalist" in all of Fleet Street. She's the worst in self-entitled, sneering conservatism and a great example of how far looks alone can actually get you. A complete bimbo who makes Katie Hopkins look semi-intellectual.
18 months and these pricks still don’t get it. What the feck are they doing all day? It’s not that hard to learn a few things about the EU.
What do we want? The same level of austerity we've had for 8 years. When do we want it? Now!
The best way to avoid austerity is to effectively tie yourself to every Tory flagship policy and find yourself pretty much on par with every forecast Tory spending plan. A real alternative.
Na, I reckon if Corbyn comes out against Brexit the Tories will give up being a political party within the next 5 minutes. All those centrists favourite Tories who've consistently voted for every piece of legislation involving cuts, particularly to the most vulnerable in this country, will see the light and become a beacon of empathy.
Here is the negotiation in full;
Labour: "Can we please have full access to the internal market without the free movement of people"
EU: "Not in a million years"
End of negotiation.
I think that both labour and the tory think that the EU is lead by idiots
Or EU:"Okay, you get full access without free movement of goods and capitals."
I think they're both aware they're fighting a helpless battle they're going to get feck all from. Thus far we've seceded on almost every issue to them and that'll likely continue to be the case.
I think that JC handled this horribly. Early on he should have stated that although labour was anti Brexit, it accepts the will of the people. However, the referendum was won based on a set of promises, given by Brexiteers and which labour will make sure that the Tory party will have to abide too ie project accountability. That will provide JC plenty of ammo to hit the Tory party on and would also attract plenty of sympathy from the likes of James O'Brien, the Lib dem, the guardian and co.
If asked what he could do better JC will limit himself by saying the truth ie that Brexit was not his doing, he's not part of the negotiation team and its up to such negotiation team to dig itself out of what seem to degenerate into a mess. He would then ask if the negotiation team whom may I remind, were all consummate Brexiters are able to deliver what they promised else, or if its high time to consider them either incompetent or worse still liars. Brexit was won by emotions so if labour can transform this 'we stick it up to Brussels' feeling to 'the Tory party had lied to us and had turned us into a colony of the DUP' feeling then he's got a winner.
When asked what he would do if he ends in government then he'll limit himself in saying that he would go to Brussels. He would then negotiate with the EU in total transparency, among those, he insist they are historical allies and partners and he will try to get the best deal possible. Negotiations are a two way street and no one would know how they would end. However, what's certain is that he'll be realistic and won't take the British voter for a ride like the likes of Boris, Davis and Gove seem to have done. Unlike the Tory party who caused all this mess out of a cat fight, labour would be fully committed to put national interest back and deal with politics in a mature way. That stance will attract remainers, soft Brexiteers and possibly sway some of the hard brexiteers back to the fold.