Also tired of hearing "Corbyn is in a difficult situation".
It's a lame excuse for giving almost no direction on Brexit.
It's a lame excuse for giving almost no direction on Brexit.
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inclined to agree
the overall Westminster perspective seems like it's all a bit of a lark to me
except for the Tory loonies who are loving it - the tail wagging the dog feckwits
and Labour position is a pretty can't really be arsed shameful-fest for the most part, unless they can throw some mud that won't boomerang back
Of course they haven't. Davis, May, Fox, Johnson...they're all just playing a game of seeing how long they can get away with it.
Johnson will quit shortly before everything goes south in order to position himself as the white knight, the others will simply slink off. It's just a massive pretence to elongate their political relevance. Like the spoon-faced cnut before them, they'll simply walk off after setting the country alight and leave it for someone else.
The outrage I tell you, the outrage!
The UK would never charge anyone from outside the EU for a visa.... oh wait.
The left's opposition to Brexit is because one conception involves us basically maintaining the same relationship without any of the benefits, and the other involves violating the Good Friday Agreement and severely damaging the economy, both options being implemented by a highly incompetent government who don't seem to understand any of this.
Yeah I have mix feelings on the article and it of course the misses the biggest issue - the potential border in the North but I thought it was worth posting.
The outrage I tell you, the outrage!
The UK would never charge anyone from outside the EU for a visa.... oh wait.
Wait until they have to queue for six hours at Dover, wonder who'll be the moaners then.
Yeah, I don't mean to come across as an overly dismissive dick - I do have a certain respect for elements of the left who want to actually look for viable, workable solutions to this without undermining what the majority voted for, but at the same time I feel like a lot of the complicated discussion kind of misses the central point that opposition to Brexit is based on the fact that the end results are either pointless, non-viable or both.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...feat-for-government-makes-no-deal-less-likely
Well that's good news at least.
I'm sure the Brexiteers will be cheering on our display of sovereignty here.
Well that's good news at least.
I'm sure the Brexiteers will be cheering on our display of sovereignty here.
Indeed. I'm sure in this case he fully accepts their wishes.
Any chances press can call him out on this one, given his recent tweets? Reall hate the sight of that self-serving marionette.
I can't imagine him taking much notice of the Guardian and Independent. Other than that it'll be brushed under the carpet, Kusenberg will hold the rug up for him.
This. The Tory party has succumbed to the base instincts of its nasty wing and Labour is a cynical, deceitful rabble.
This should be the Lib Dems' chance to shine but they don't have anyone who can take advantage.
https://ec.europa.eu/info/strategy/...-rights/eu-citizenship/consular-protection_en
Consular assistance/protection will now be available to all EU citizens from all EU member consulates, regardless if they're from that state.
Consular assistance/protection will now be available to all EU citizens from all EU member consulates, regardless if they're from that state.
Ah, he's UKIP. Nothing to see here.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/21/adulthood-extended-adolescence-when-will-we-grow-uo
This says you're not adult until 24, although I'm pretty sure I've seen recent research somewhere that says it's 28 for males. I must admit when I read the caf I find it best to ignore posters under 28 anyway.
"you've been fecked by my generations greed so you're not worth listening to"
Yeah, I was pretty much an idiot until late in my 20s. Would have no problem making 28 the cut off point.
Bound to be some sort of bell-shaped curve, mind you. My old man has definitely got more and more reactionary and less logical since he hit his 70s.
It's not all down to age.
Someone who was stupid when they were 20 will still be stupid when they're 40 and at 60 and at 80.
Instead of taking into account their age or their political belief, make them take an intelligence test before they answer, that may be more revealing.
Someone who was stupid when they were 20 will still be stupid when they're 40 and at 60 and at 80.
Instead of taking into account their age or their political belief, make them take an intelligence test before they answer, that may be more revealing.
First disqualifying question: Do you think intelligence tests are worthwhile?
Should weed a few out.
Why not?
It's not because of someone's age whether they are stupid or not. Stephen Hawking must have been an imbecile.
In that case, are qualifications a measure of one's ability?
How about not voting unless you've been to Eton and Oxford? Cheltenham Ladies College like Rudd might do at a pinch.
Stephen Hawking was celebrated for his scientific work and his attempts to teach the general public science. He wasn't celebrated because he passed a fecking exam.
Who said he was. But you didn't answer my question.
Intelligence tests before being allowed to vote are clearly a slippery slope.
That said, I’d be all in favour of insisting that voters pass a short MCQ test to onfirm that they understand what the feck they are voting for.
“Brexit, innit?” would not be an allowable answer.
That said, I’d be all in favour of insisting that voters pass a short MCQ test to onfirm that they understand what the feck they are voting for.
“Brexit, innit?” would not be an allowable answer.
It's not a question worth answering. Someone with 5 PHDs in advanced calculus is still going to be worse at plumbing than someone who spent a year learning to be a plumber.
I wasn't talking about the right to vote, I was talking about the opinion polls, notably the one you posted, everyone has the right to vote.
What's wrong with "Brexit, innit?" It's a more explanatory sentence than what we actually got during the referendum.
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Well I can't disagree with that but do not see the relevance.
It's getting harder to tell who's serious or not in this thread. I suppose it had to happen.
qualifications are only worthwhile in narrow fields where the qualifications apply, they're worthless as measures in wider fields, i.e how the country should be run
intelligence tests don't even have narrow applications, they just show how well someone did in an arbitrary exam
Aha. Well with polls I guess it’s just about trying to get a broad cross-section of society. I presume YouGov are fairly good at this. They’re one of the best known pollsters.
Agree qualifications in specific subjects will not serve to be useful in other areas of life but at least an intelligence test is a broader indication of a person's ability to use judgement, logic etc.
It may not be perfect but it's no less perfect than saying because someone is old he must be stupid and because someone is young he must be clever.