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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Who are you suggesting is name calling?

No one in particular, that was in reference to adults being able to identify stupid by way of analysis rather than simply resorting to name calling which is what children would do. So you can be an adult and correctly identify stupid, and call it just that. A spade is spade and a grown up can see that.

that adds nothing to the conversation.

What do you mean?
 
I assume other regulars here watched Liam Fox's speech yesterday? Credit where it's due, he seems to have taken notice that his words are being listened to outside of the brexit cult and cut back on the fabrications and lies. Still a bit odd to praise free trade for half an hour while trying to justify the end of it with the UK's largest trading partner... but an improvement. The only factual takeaway for me was that the UK has started preliminary trade talks with 20 something countries across the world, which is positive and surely the route to go if brexiteers have their wishes come true.

The man who only ever goes jogging when he sees reporters in front of his house seems a bit confused though:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...h-border-issue-being-used-to-frustrate-brexit

I'm sure he's also convinced that donuts are a scheme to frustrate his various sporting activities.

Similar to when IDS was being interviewed by Sarah Smith on Sunday - he was unable to offer any coherent answer to the question of what is preventing us increasing trade with China and India while in the EU (as Germany has done very successfully). He came up with some gibberish about obtaining freedom of services.
 
new rules suggest that you need to elaborate everything you say even if you're stating the obvious. So one liners won't do.

I can see you've got a new tag probably from your comments in the announcement thread :lol:

I am sure that in my limited skim of that thread I understood that was in reference to the United forum.

Regardless the discussion above wasn't a one liner and it was very elaborate in why people were stupid.
 
I can see you've got a new tag probably from your comments in the announcement thread :lol:

I am sure that in my limited skim of that thread I understood that was in reference to the United forum.

Regardless the discussion above wasn't a one liner and it was very elaborate in why people were stupid.

Nope its a one liner and it didnt helped created a discussion :p
 
I cannot believe I did not get the same tag. I certainly seemed to have rustled some feathers and was told I 'did not understand the explanation'. Sounds eerily familiar to certain other discussions.
 


I especially like the last 3 lines of Davis's letter

Our aim remains to reach an agreement on the implementation period at the March European Council, to provide certainty and clarity for businesses on both sides

The European Council is in 3 weeks time and the UK government are not even close to agreeing Stage One of the negotiations 20 months after the referendum.
I declare David Davis stupid.
 
You are being very childish Devilish.

it was tongue to cheek mate (with a bit of very friendly jab)

What I do find childish is for people to open a thread to encourage discussion on a new rule only to find myself with this insultive tag because I did exactly that. Lets say I feel forced to live up to the tag :P
 
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it was tongue to cheek mate (with a bit of very friendly jab)

What I do find childish is for people to open a thread to encourage discussion on a new rule only to find myself with this insultive tag because I did exactly that. Lets say I feel forced to live up to the tag :P

They just need to add a re in front of the second word and then you’ll be complete :lol:
 
It would be so much neater an explanation if it werent for the Welsh.

The Bexit agenda is being driven by the English - personalities, agendas, regions, parties. If there had been a remain majority in Wales it would have made no difference to the result.
 
it was tongue to cheek mate (with a bit of very friendly jab)

What I do find childish is for people to open a thread to encourage discussion on a new rule only to find myself with this insultive tag because I did exactly that. Lets say I feel forced to live up to the tag :P
Fair enough mate.

As for the tag it does seem a tad harsh, hopefully only temporary!
 
The Bexit agenda is being driven by the English - personalities, agendas, regions, parties. If there had been a remain majority in Wales it would have made no difference to the result.
That's not really what I'm arguing. If the Welsh had voted remain it wouldnt have changed the result - fine. But they did vote leave, and presumably not because of English nationalism. Which suggests there are other forces at work.
 

I dont see the eurosceptics in her party pulling the plug while negotiating purely because none of them want to be responsible for it.
And they're definitely, 100% guaranteed to stab her in the back and kick up a leadership contest the second negotiations are complete,
so she really should just tell them to go to hell in the meantime. Call their bluff.
 
To the Brexiters, May is a human shield. They know they can't deliver what they promised, can't satisfy the racists and keep a close enough relationship with Europe to not smash the economy. When things go tits up they hope to blame her for the failure and they can keep power
 


Sounds like exactly the sort of vague, meaningless statements the UK is crying out for. Can't wait.
 
Desperate lack of detail. How long can this go on for before the few Tories with integrity actually do something about it?
 
Very worried re: Northern Ireland tbh - lots of wishy washy words but yet again absolutely zero detail about what will happen with the border or the common market. They basically still have no clue what to do about the one thing that will bring the entire thing down if they don't sort it properly.
 
She's hopeless, and she's saying absolutely nothing here, but I'm not sure what anyone else would do if put in her position; it's pretty much impossible to ask for a deal which involves both leaving the single market and yet not damaging our economy while ensuring there's no Irish border.
 
On first glance it seems like slightly more realistic rhetoric on some issues before more of the same unhelpful nonsense on the border issue. Rather worrying that this is where the UK is at 18 months into the process.
 
She's hopeless, and she's saying absolutely nothing here, but I'm not sure what anyone else would do if put in her position; it's pretty much impossible to ask for a deal which involves both leaving the single market and yet not damaging our economy while ensuring there's no Irish border.

It's not pretty much impossible but literally impossible. You can't be in two different economic areas and have no borders, those things are mutually exclusive.
Though isn't it possible to package NI and Scotland, both territory stay in the ECU, all goods transit through Scotland and the border is effectively in Scotland. You guys don't mind a border with England?

I haven't thought it through but isn't there something in it?
 
It's not pretty much impossible but literally impossible. You can't be in two different economic areas and have no borders, those things are mutually exclusive.
Though isn't it possible to package NI and Scotland, both territory stay in the ECU, all goods transit through Scotland and the border is effectively in Scotland. You guys don't mind a border with England?

I haven't thought it through but isn't there something in it?

Scotland-England border would probably been even more disastrous.:lol: