He ain't that good.
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He ain't that good.
If that fecking cnut had anything approaching self-awareness, he'd have come out and said Brexit was a great idea from the very start.
It's the sensible compromise (following the will of the people without crippling the nation) that leaves noone with what they want.
Everyone who wants to be in the single market/customs union etc would rather remain in the EU. The hardcore leavers won't accept any of the compromises that come with access to free trading. Freedom of movement, EU regulation and jurisdiction of EU courts- basically its like being a member without having a seat at the table.
Swapping a slightly stroppy marriage for a messy divorce that involves paying to get fecked up the arse by the EU while having to wear a gimp mask. Negotiations continue over what the safe word should be.
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well put
That's what she said.
Do you know when you know something is going to be a real cluster feck, but then you're still surprised by how much of a clusterfeck it actually is when it happens?
This whole episode has been like watching my missus trying to cook when she's pissed, or watching Arsenal trying to defend a counter attack. Just spectacularly shit in every possible way.
Someone mentioned earlier that there had been lies told by both sides during the referendum campaign. Seeing how it's all come to pass, what do brexiters still think were lies and how much of it has proved to be bang on?
This whole episode has been like watching my missus trying to cook when she's pissed, or watching Arsenal trying to defend a counter attack. Just spectacularly shit in every possible way.
Someone mentioned earlier that there had been lies told by both sides during the referendum campaign. Seeing how it's all come to pass, what do brexiters still think were lies and how much of it has proved to be bang on?
Goes to show the state of NI politics when a party who received 28 percent of votes in the last election can torpedo a deal that the rest of the UK are begging for.
They lost the majority in Stormont 9 months ago, they have 1 more seat that Sinn Fein.
1,000 votes split the main parties from the 800,000 ballots cast in the closest ever assembly election
Its beyond ridiculous
They lost the majority in Stormont 9 months ago, they have 1 more seat that Sinn Fein.
1,000 votes split the main parties from the 800,000 ballots cast in the closest ever assembly election
Its beyond ridiculous
Even forgetting the rest of the UK, it's a deal NI itself is begging for. Something like 70%+ of them actually want to stay in the customs union, with the majority being against Brexit in it's entirety.
The whole thing is such a shitshow.
I still hold hope that all this shitshow is May trying to sabotage Brexit. She doesn't want it, plenty of her party don't want it. Just take the sword, collapse your goverment and let us have another vote.
You could ship them off to an island off the coast of Alaska.
Their masters on one side, like-minded Trump on the other, maintain their island mentality and isolationism.
Far away from Europe and no foreigner would ever want to go there.
Appoint Farage as Head of State and as he yearned to be honoured he could be bestowed with the 'Order of the Simpleton's Grin'.
This new paradise could be known as FREE , the Fascist Republic of Ethnocentric Englanders.
Principle exports: Bile and hatred.
yes... But at least its not those nasty un-elected eurocrats
Or some other xenaphobic mumbo jumbo
This is poignant.
He's certainly a man who knows about campaigns of misinformation and lies, given his dodgy dossier.
90% of inward immigration goes to England which is the most densely populated country in Europe (except the island of Malta) and more densely populated than India. If the Tories do not deliver then the party will be hammered creating a big vacuum on the patriotic right.
One saving grace is that they are literally dying off every day.
Why does it matter if we're the most dense comparatively? Such a pointless soundbite
I would hazard a guess that some of the most densely populated areas voted Remain (like London) whilst some of the least debsely populated vote Leave.
Do you want your children or grandchildren only able to afford to be able to live in a tower block?
With higher density tends to lead to more corruption to escape that area, also more crime, more pollution, more travelling time.
Add to that by having this unbalanced economy in Europe with the finance industry it has led to the concentration of jobs in the London area to the detriment of other regions.
Not that simple, nearly all England (and Wales) voted Leave with some exceptions in the big metropolitan areas largely those with high levels of immigration and also those that are very wealthy.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-map-2017-6
So according to Davis "allignment" is totally different to "harmonisation", even though the end result has to be the same? Meanwhile the Irish government says they are in fact exactly the same as far as they're concerened.
It's turned into a debate on semantics. I suspect Davis thinks that if they word it slightly differently the DUP will get confused and cave in.
@The Outsider
Singapore is by far the most densely populated country in the world
Don't listen to the terrified Europeans. The Singapore model is our Brexit opportunity
Singapore is by far the most densely populated country in the world
Don't listen to the terrified Europeans. The Singapore model is our Brexit opportunity
@Nick 0208 Ldn do you think this "regulatory alignment" for the UK is a betrayal of the vote?
Well thats a certainty at least.
What i believed to be the effective Leave offer is consistent with and respectful of the EU's belief structure. Simply put, the UK ceasesto be a member of both the Single Market and the Customs Union. No mandated primacy of the ECJ nor guaranteed FoM). There was, however, scope to continue some level of annual contribution (for access to services and in support of programs we might still participate in).
While it won't happen with ths present government i do also expect significant reductions to the expense of visas for all entrants. We could also waive citizenship costs outright for those working in certain sectors. Recipricol arrangements for even lower barriers of movement could be reached with a smaller number of nations, places sucha s: US, Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea... I'll have a word with Liam and see what he thinks.
There has never been a practicable 'soft Brexit', only continued EU membership in all but name. Remain would have won the referendum without actually doing so. The suggetion that this would pleases nobody is very disingenuous, and knowingly so i imagine.
Antyhing UK-wide would have to be quite limited in nature for it not ot be. Taxation is a definite no-go for instance.
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The only thing that we voted for was in or out. What that means is totally in the hands of the Government and our friends still in The EU. All these people saying that's not what I voted for need to go back and see what was written on the ballot paper.
Brexit means what ever we end up getting and it's probably going to be worse than what we had.
See that's been the problem with the Leave vote, it's all completely subjective and there was no coherent view or plan. It was all down to what the person believed.
I agree, you should take this up with Nick.
What about changes to the Law?
A lot of the things they believed were outright lies and can't be delivered upon.
Your kind of having terms dictated to you because you've failed to propose a single realistic, coherent plan to deal with any of these issues.
That sounds wrong. I'd imagine both the Netherlands and Belgium have higher population densities.
Lots of "red lines" though
He's decided that England will go it alone and Scotland, Wales and NI don't count.
England on its own has a higher density than those two.
So yeah, it is, If you don't count Monaco.
Although if London and the other big cities claim independence it will be one of the least populated
Maybe this is how she'll explain the deal in parliament :
You keep the North Brit in
the South Brit out
The West Brit in
Then you shake it all about.
You keep the North Brit in
the South Brit out
The West Brit in
Then you shake it all about.
Last time I checked England was part of the UK, unless he prepares for the inevitable departure of Scotland and NI from the union. UK has huge structural problems and immigration has little bearing on those, hence singling out England (using same logic you can go on more granular level, say South East of England or use only London as an example of density?) is only viable if you're trying to push through some agenda that suits ones flawed understanding.
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