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That shifts the border to the ports then, the unionists won't be very happy.
The unionists already said they'd vote against that. Although if its not being voted on until just before the exit, it might not matter.
So NI will have to mirror EU regs in order to maintain a soft border?
Looks like we are finally getting to a UK position that allows the EU to move forward. Better late than never, my hopes for an acceptable deal (for both sides) haven't been this high in months.
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Forgive my ignorance but what is this likely to mean for May's government? Surely under these terms the DUP will pull out as threatened and she'll lose her majority?
Pretty good news that, but i'll only believe it when I see the receipts. I expect the DUP will kick up a stink
I'm splitting into two the points to avoid long posts
People who believe obvious lies and vote for self-destruction are stupid in my book , it's a generalisation .
You have a short memory.
People who believe obvious lies and vote for self-destruction are stupid in my book , it's a generalisation .
You have a short memory.
My guess is that it will back tracked on once the DUP start kicking up a fuss.
I can't see this going smoothlh
I'm sure May will find them a sum of money from the Magic Money tree to make them change their mind.
It really does feel like Mays goverment has no say on policy at the moment. They'r going whichever way the wind blows
I'm sure May will find them a sum of money from the Magic Money tree to make them change their mind.
It really does feel like Mays goverment has no say on policy at the moment. They'r going whichever way the wind blows
I wonder what price exactly the most ardent Brexiteers are willing to pay in order to leave the EU.
My question too.
Apparently will be more clear by the end of the day (where everyone stands etc).
I said they are similar but are not exactly the same, imo they are a cross between Cabinet minsters and Senior Civil Servants.
appointment is proposed by the 28 different states.
The President of the Commission is nominated by the European Council (the 28 Heads of States) and elected by the European Parliament for a 5 year term.
The Commissioners also have a 5 year term, their appointment is made in consultation with the 28 states and the president .
Again the EU Parliament has to approve appointment of the Commissioners.
The EU Parliament is elected by EU citizens.
The Commission propose laws, the EU Council and the Parliament approve them
A Civil Servant whether Senior or not is not elected by anyone.
A UK Cabinet Minister is only elected as an MP by their constituents, taking Davis as an example 31355 people voted for him out of 65million.
None of them voted for him to a be a minister. The PM appointed him as a minister, was his appointment approved by anyone else and more so did the UK parliament approve?
Question: is it possible for the House of Lords to block legislation?
Which system is more democratic?
I think your problem is that you follow Farage too closely, gravy-train, unelected bureaucrats are straight out a Farage speech.
As his average appearance record at the EU is something like 7 times a year, he probably doesn't have a very good grasp on how the EU works and missed the times when the EU parliament voted.
As for unelected he has never actually won an individual parliamentary election.
I just checked and the deal between the Tories and DUP does include a DUP agreement to vote with the government on "Legislation pertaining to the UK's exit from the European Union". So if the DUP won't agree to this new proposal then yeah they'll probably have to choose between torpedoing the government and having to face the likelihood of a Labour government, or biting their tongues and dealing with it. My guess will be the former.
You cant put a price on freedom
Can I just point something out.
If NI stays within EU regulations and the mainland does not, that means a company based in Manchester will have tariffs on its exports to the EU, while a competitor in Belfast would not, as part of government ruling.
That would be challenged in court, and i suspect, is illegal.
If NI stays within EU regulations and the mainland does not, that means a company based in Manchester will have tariffs on its exports to the EU, while a competitor in Belfast would not, as part of government ruling.
That would be challenged in court, and i suspect, is illegal.
The obvious solution is for the mainland to scrap article 50 and remain in the single market.
Can London and the South East also get this alignment thing? Please?
Rate vs Actual numbers
"And even though the rate of poverty went down under Obama, the number of people in poverty rose — just not as fast as the population in general. In 2016, just over 40.6 million Americans were still living below the poverty line, an increase of 787,000 people compared with 2008. Under George W. Bush, the number went up by more than 8 million, after going down by more than 6 million under Clinton"
So it fell in real terms then. If the rate increase slower than the population increased, then that's a fall realistically.
shamblesReminder that NI voted to remain
Country being held to ransom by nutters funded by Theresa May
What a mess..
Arlene Foster is a weapon and the DUP are total nutters. The Tories are absolute fools for ever getting into bed with them. They'll regret it now.
wrap it up how you like, makes no diff
Reminder that NI voted to remain
Country being held to ransom by nutters funded by Theresa May
I think this is the sort of situation the word "omnishambles" was created for.
Yes, its dreaful when people go around wrapping things up in truth, however can a dishonest narrative ever good coverage?
DUP: We want no further divisions between NI and Eire
Also DUP: Let's campaign for Brexit
The amount of stupidity in politics at the moment is astonishing
The DUP fecking love the idea of an NI totally segregated from Ireland! Keeping NI in the customs union is the worst possible scenario for them.
Now London wants in as well
The domino effect, she surely can’t pick and choose which parts of the UK to remain in the single market?
If she concedes NI, then she’ll have to concede for the whole country? And end up losing her parliamentary majority also.
If she concedes NI, then she’ll have to concede for the whole country? And end up losing her parliamentary majority also.
The logic will be that NI is the only part of the country sharing a border with the EU, I would guess.
This is clearly going towards a soft Brexit now anyway.
Can't see how we don't get an election with the next couple of months. The situation has spiralled completely out of control.
I can accept a soft Brexit, if that's the best deal presented to us.
If the DUP back out of their agreement with the Tories over this, is there a chance for another election?