But is it worse than not having free movement at all?
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I don't want to stop freedom of movement
But fom is ending
Oh yeah I don't think that would work at all(And he might have a point about his generation). I just find it hard to understand why past generations who had to work most of their adult for such a basic necessity, want the same to happened to the younger generation(Although thats not much of problem as working with the end goal of owning your own home is a bit of a fantasy now)
It might be for another thread but I do think at a certain point(Long term social status, age or how they consume news) theres no convincing some people of moving even slightly in a different political outlook.
It is, if we leave
We are leaving though
Probably
a) Increased unemployment is not the only potential effect of increased immigration in certain areas, it can also contribute to wage stagnation
b) I never once said immigration as a whole was a negative
Immigration can have a positive effect on aggregate demand, paticularly if the jobs are well paying and/or there wasn't someone from the UK that could do that job. When it comes to lower ends of the economy such as retail, customer service, care etc the jobs don't pay enough for the benefit in aggregate demand to be worthwhile and they are typically areas where there already which is backed up by the BOE http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/research/Documents/workingpapers/2015/swp574.pdf
Seems perfectly reasonable to me, my missus most likely wouldn't get through Australian immigration checks because she doesn't work in a nominated skilled occupation that they are looking for, do you know the solution? We wouldn't emigrate to Australia.
Once again, I'm trying to understand why you targeted EU citizens and why you consider that it's an important subject in a brexit thread when the two articles you posted say that UE citizens have a negligible impact on unemployment and wages.
It reads like you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Because the United Kingdom has control over its immigration policy for every country outside the EU, it doesn't for those within? The EU makes up nearly 50% of all immigration but the UK has no/very little control over that. Why would I focus on non-EU citizens when the UK already has the right to control that? When you consider non-EU migration has increased a bit over 150% since the early 90's and EU migration has increased at a far, far more rapid pace, paticularly since the inclusion of some Eastern European.
Consider it an important subject? It was one of several points I made, in response to someone who had included the point within their post. I am not sure what your agenda is here? If you're trying to paint me as someone who has some kind of vendentta against people within the EU, then you're incorrect. All I would like is for all potential migrants to face the same process irrespective of where they come from, seems fair to me? I'd also be more than happy for some kind of streamlined process for EU applicants considering geographical proximity and fact they are likely to be a fair sized proportion on their own.
Because the United Kingdom has control over its immigration policy for every country outside the EU, it doesn't for those within? The EU makes up nearly 50% of all immigration but the UK has no/very little control over that. Why would I focus on non-EU citizens when the UK already has the right to control that? When you consider non-EU migration has increased a bit over 150% since the early 90's and EU migration has increased at a far, far more rapid pace, paticularly since the inclusion of some Eastern European.
Consider it an important subject? It was one of several points I made, in response to someone who had included the point within their post. I am not sure what your agenda is here? If you're trying to paint me as someone who has some kind of vendentta against people within the EU, then you're incorrect. All I would like is for all potential migrants to face the same process irrespective of where they come from, seems fair to me? I'd also be more than happy for some kind of streamlined process for EU applicants considering geographical proximity and fact they are likely to be a fair sized proportion on their own.
I don't have any agenda. I'm trying to understand the problems and solutions that you are trying to expose, since I failed to spot the specific problems and only saw the solutions I asked a you question and the more you answer, the more I see that there is no clear problems and it's just a control for control type of situation, which is perfectly fine.
You can't see why the UK might benefit by limiting immigration in areas where there is already job saturation?
UK wages have seen comparatively rubbish performance since the financial crisis, now I am not putting that at the foot of immigration, it's because of all kinds of reasons. You say a 2% deduction in some areas with a 10% increase in immigration is a molehill. Yet Britain has seen a huge surge as seen by the graph, and since 2005 had increased another 3.5% to 13.5%.
I think the argument is relatively simple. No FOM no unrestricted access to the single market. The more restrictions the UK want on immigration the more restrictions there need to be on the single market.
Typical May posturing. Why the hell does she have to wait even more to make this nonsense intervention and waste even more time after she threw away 3 months already.
It's as if the government is functioning independently of her instead of her being in charge. What shambles this Tory party is.
Amidst all of that the clown Rees-Mogg is being touted as a potential minister. The mind boggles.
It's as if the government is functioning independently of her instead of her being in charge. What shambles this Tory party is.
Amidst all of that the clown Rees-Mogg is being touted as a potential minister. The mind boggles.
I have a terrible record of predicting U.K. elections, but I'd stake a fortune that that ridiculous tit will never win a general election.
Both sides just seem utterly useless. Some of the posturing from Britain over the bill etc has been stupid and it's taken over a year for us to even remotely get our shit together. The EU are being silly over this EU citizens within the UK still coming under the ECJ expectation and expecting the UK to accept a bill without any negotiation over what parts of what it is paying for it is going to retain access to until 2020.
The EU are only being silly if you think they have a huge stake in getting a substantial deal put together with the UK. Personally I think if they get a deal over the EU citizens in the UK, and the UK citizens in the EU, along with a decent exit bill, they probably won't lose much sleep over the rest.
I hope its a GE or resignation but suspect a damp squib
It's mutually beneficial for both sides, more so the UK yes. But you can't forget the Eurozone was only a few years ago on the edge of the abyss. Greece, Italy and Portugal are rocking some monstrous public debt as a result. They could do without the economic boat being rocked at all.
I think the best way for the EU-UK to act is to mastermind an orderly divorce. Once out of the EU the UK can shape its own future and negotiate a new trade deal with the EU
I'm pretty sure someone from the PM's office said they're going to stage a walk out at some point in September. Some people in the city are going to make a killing with the next round of currency fluctuations and stock collapses.
Seems about right. Especially given his Russian backers and general destructive attitude.
Like her husband.
I'm not talking about people choosing to emigrate together somewhere. You'd set up a system that stops your partner joining you in the country of your birth
Well, if there's any truth to that, this country and its PM has lost its mind. Why is this female dinosaur allowed to implement her ideas from the 1950s in the 21st century is beyond me. Even worse if any of the sensible Tories support this charade.
I hope the EU will anticipate that by saying that if the UK leaves the negotiation tables then it shouldn't bother itself returning to it. There again, if the UK does return to the negotiation table after staging such stunt then its hand will further weakened
David Davis is a mess.
The most annoying thing about him is his stupid laugh and he does it all the time.
Gets asked a difficult question and his response is to laugh.
The most annoying thing about him is his stupid laugh and he does it all the time.
Gets asked a difficult question and his response is to laugh.
I'm torn between this, his use of glasses as a prop or everything he stands for politically as his worst feature.
Anyone catch Suella Fernandes' car-crash interview on Channel 4 earlier? If not, it's an absolute must see.
https://www.channel4.com/news/conse...resa-may-not-to-keep-britain-in-single-market
https://www.channel4.com/news/conse...resa-may-not-to-keep-britain-in-single-market
It scares me to see such stupid and lying individuals in charge of the UK. This woman and her ilk are like the Brexit version of the Tea party. Bloody hell.
I am more scared by the fact that she looks like Wallace from Wallace and Gromit.
That was painful. 
Tory Party,who'd have thunk?
I mean I laugh at the US but this woman is a complete buffoon.
Its been quite a productive week. First Boris said that the EU is legally bound to give a trade deal to the UK and then Farage urged Germany to get serious as according the him the UK is an important market for Germany (if it was then why isn't it pushing for a trade deal?). Its seems that all the posturing had gone and that sense of superiority complex has given way to desperation
Brexit is sounding more and more a Suez canal crisis Mark II
Brexit is sounding more and more a Suez canal crisis Mark II
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