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It's more like 4 in 5 Remainers in this thread. All of whom would deny that of course, but no matter, they'd love it.
Bollocks. The key reason to remain for me is to avoid the economic instability that could cost me my job. It's my #1 priority and I'm sure many othersvfeel the same.
That's why I voted Remain too, not for my job but for others. Reading the comments of Remainers on here specifically though, as opposed to the general population, it's pretty obvious a lot are lapping up every supposed disaster rather than hoping for the best outcome as anyone sensible should be doing.
I certainly want Brexit to be a success simply because there is no backing out now. I think it's quite possibly the worst decision the UK public has ever made mind.
Part of me dreads it being a success simply because Alt-Right tossers like Katie Hopkins / Paul Joseph Watson & even Trump will milk the feck out of it.
Once we do leave, it's going to be horrible regardless I think.. Both sides will exaggerate any positives / negatives that suit their agenda.
A bit like Trump supporters bragging about some of the positives recently which have most likely occurred due to Obama and not Trump.
It's going to be a complete shit show, sucking up to that tangoed cnut, moving away from Europe, it can only end in disaster.
Part of me dreads it being a success simply because Alt-Right tossers like Katie Hopkins / Paul Joseph Watson & even Trump will milk the feck out of it.
Once we do leave, it's going to be horrible regardless I think.. Both sides will exaggerate any positives / negatives that suit their agenda.
A bit like Trump supporters bragging about some of the positives recently which have most likely occurred due to Obama and not Trump.
It's going to be a complete shit show, sucking up to that tangoed cnut, moving away from Europe, it can only end in disaster.
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I don't think it's a case of lapping it up, more the feeling of being proved right despite having been dismissed as fearmongering.
At the end of the day Brexit is likely to be disastrous for most people with jobs, mortgages and without a triple locked pension.
Interesting questions
Knowing the dupes who voted for it still can't see the economic damage, let alone the long term damage to our relationships with our European neighbours is still frustrating. Knowing that the cretins we have left in charge of our exit negotiations have no plan and even less of a clue how to minimise the damage that will be done to our economy is terrifying and watching them deliberately and repeatedly pissing off our European neighbours is thoroughly miserable.
Do I want the UK to suffer as a result of Brexit? No.
Do I believe there is anything but suffering in our future as a result of this clusterfeck of a decision and it's subsequent mishandling? No.
Feck all this typical Remoaner bollocks though, I have every right to still protest this idiocy and to believe that those who have willfully pushed it on Britain deserve any suffering Brexit brings them. I will undoubtedly suffer too, most likely in the pension and retirement age areas but I know many of those who voted Brexit will suffer far more than I and whilst my socialist heart will always want to see a narrowing of the wealth divide in Britain I can't help but feel that when some of these cnuts reap what they have sewn a little schadenfreude will help to take the edge off my own personal issues.
I've been living in the UK for quite some time and I've yet to understand why elderly people here hate the younger generation so much. Its not just Brexit. The elderly generation had given the go ahead for university fees. They left the NHS in shambles. Their generation allowed property to become so expensive and they left the UK sitting on a pile of debt.
I really hope the young generation will learn to be smarter by voting more and wisely so they can screw over those who keep screwing them all the time. Let the elderly generation feel the brunt of Brexit too
I really hope the young generation will learn to be smarter by voting more and wisely so they can screw over those who keep screwing them all the time. Let the elderly generation feel the brunt of Brexit too
That's just insane, I hate the younger generation too. You don't often see them on the streets protesting for what they believe in, maybe cos they don't really believe in anything or at least not with any passion.
My grandfather is the only person I consider as a hero. He was as straight as an arrow, he never swore or raised his voice. He only broke the law once and that was when he lied about his age (he was underage) to serve the army during WW2. After the Brits left he worked very hard in a very difficult time. He was a business man but he reduced his salary substantially during the 70s recession just to keep as many people at work as possible. He would do part time work to sustain her in laws whose father (my great grand father) was ill for quite a long time. A devout catholic he was one of the famous soldiers of steel who faced interdiction (ie a local version of excommunication) just because he supported the labour party who wanted to increase worker rights and reduce the church's power.
He died of parkinsons disease which is a very cruel death tbh. He was in pain but his only concern was that they might send him home were he would be a burden to my grandmother. I never saw a man who loved his wife and his family more then he did. He puts each and everyone of us to shame really.
Once I asked him how would he described a life as a failure. He told me, quite clearly that a person can consider his life as a failure if his own family ended up with a worse standard of living then he had. Ultimately we all die but what we left behind is what truly matters. That mentality is shared by many elderly people in Malta. Hence why I find it strange how so many elderly people in here like to screw the younger generation up.
I repeat this has nothing to do with Brexit and there are many things that are way better in the UK then in Malta. The infrastructure for example is horrible (roads etc) and law enforcement leave much to be desired. There's a reason why I moved in the UK and I assure you its not a financial reason. On that regard I am way better off in Malta
Just imagine if his idea of 'the right thing' was not the same as his grandkids idea. Thats what you have now if you believe old people are screwing the young.
They are screwing the young
It's not just that
Tony Blair ran on a "stop young people being thugs" campaign in 1997. (not quite, but basically).
(start at 16:40)
Ran on stopping young people harassing pensioners. Created the ASBO. etc.
I would say the older generation tend to afraid of yobs, and that makes a lot of sense.
There is a distinct lack of respect for older people in British society. I know I'm talking sterotypes here, but you see elsewhere where it is actually a "macho" thing to help old ladies cross the street. Here, that is not the macho thing, caring for the elderly is done by machines, by paid help or not at all. How we treat the elderly in this country is a great crime.
So the older generation probably do hate the younger generation in a way. Not their specific grand children, but the general youth, who is loud and disrespectful, and sometimes abusive and scary.
There is a distinct lack of respect for older people in British society. I know I'm talking sterotypes here, but you see elsewhere where it is actually a "macho" thing to help old ladies cross the street. Here, that is not the macho thing, caring for the elderly is done by machines, by paid help or not at all. How we treat the elderly in this country is a great crime.
So the older generation probably do hate the younger generation in a way. Not their specific grand children, but the general youth, who is loud and disrespectful, and sometimes abusive and scary.
Irony being in migrant communities the elders are revered with 3 generations often sharing the same home
I don't think that putting kids into debt through expensive university tuition fees, keep voting for governments who had appeased a sharp increase of work on zero hours and making it impossible for young people to go up the property ladder can ever be considered as doing the right thing. Its more of the case of hating (or at least not giving a damn feck) about the younger generation. Im all right.....
Its more the case of Im allright feck you jack. The Tory party with his aggressive capitalist mentality had made it very hard for the younger generation to do well. Yet the elderly seem to keep voting for it because it takes care of their own interest
It would be interested to ask those people if they still favour Brexit if it meant that there will be a serious reduction on pensions and would mean the end of free NHS and elderly care.
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Its not like the young people are not voting for themselves. They are equally spiteful and are doing whatever they can every election but they just dont have the numbers.
Personally, I think the under 30 of today are the worst bunch I see compared to under40s, under50s or older. Whats alarming is that the under20s are likely going to be even worse.
Personally, I think the under 30 of today are the worst bunch I see compared to under40s, under50s or older. Whats alarming is that the under20s are likely going to be even worse.
equally spiteful in what way exactly?
Damn right, we should be blowing those dumb dinosaurs every time the cost of living goes and another of our rights is taken away.
“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.” Socrates
Great footballer.
Maybe the Yoof should have got off their fat lazy arses during the referendum, thats where remainers need to direct their contempt. Your own age group let you down.
It was on a weekday and it was heavily raining that day with trains suffering heavy delays. I made it priority no 1 to vote and I come from a country were the mentality of not voting is simply not an option. However even I struggled to make it to the polls.
TBF it was an election were my vote was actually worth something. I am anti conservative in an area were conservatives always win. Usually my vote isn't worth the very paper its printed on
If the UK truly cared about the votes of those who actually work for a living then they would consider moving it on a weekend same as my own country do. It seems to me that the UK is quite happy with their voter's demographics and have
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Its actually rubbish. The youth voted.
Sky released an estimation of the youth vote based on the 2015 election and its got out of hand
Poor excuse, it didnt just rain for the youth it rained for everyone. Polling stations are open for 12 hours or so. People just could not be arsed and are now moaning ffs.
Not enuff obviously or maybe they didn't vote the way you think.
Most of the elderly do not work. They live meters away from the polling booth and they have no time constraints, deadlines to meet, trains to take (who are always delayed) and children to pick from schools. It might sound as a poor excuse but someone has to work in this country. Else how on earth is the government able to pay their pensions?
Why is voting done on weekdays? Are these people afraid of giving youth time to vote?
More excuses
Why do people make economic arguments for what is a political decision?
Brexit came about because the EU failed as a democratic structure. British people decided that the ability to pass their own laws, make their own trade decisions and control their own borders outweighed transitory economics arguments.
Brexit came about because the EU failed as a democratic structure. British people decided that the ability to pass their own laws, make their own trade decisions and control their own borders outweighed transitory economics arguments.
So you basically left for nothing because the UK control their own borders, they make their own laws and they don't make their own trade because they chose to be part of a Custom Union in which every country have a veto.
Why it’s not done on a weekend ie at a time which makes it easier for the hardworking working class to turn out to vote? Which makes me wonder why do insist on voting on weekdays? What are politicians afraid off?
Also why do we vote candidates instead of candidates AND party? I am a Lib dem/Labour voter who happens to live in a conservative stronghold. Basically my vote isn’t even worth the paper its printed on and I shouldn’t even bother voting at all. (I still do out of habit). Is that how the UK rates democracy?
The Maltese GE’s turnout was 92%, the lowest since 1966. How that is achieved? Voting is done in weekends and the government subsidise flight tickets for expats. My house in Malta is located in a nationalist stronghold but my vote is still valid. Political parties win the elections through the highest amount of votes not seats. If a little country such as Malta who got its own independence less than a century ago can organize all that then surely the UK whose way more organized then we do can do the same.
Not enough yes. But the young demographic is much smaller than the old.
18-25 demographic has around 10.48 million people. Im not sure what percentage of that are eligible to vote, but its not the whole lot (EU migrants make up a good chunk of that age range). But let's pretend they can all vote.
The over 65 demographic, for comparison, has around 16.6 million people. Most are eligible to vote.
The 18-25 demographic were around 71/29 remain vs leave. According to sky turnout in this age range was around 36%, but that was based on the 2015 GE data. So let's bump it up to 50% which is still bottom of the chart for turnout.
So, assuming everyone in that demographic can vote, which they cant, we have 5.24 missing voters. If they had voted, and assuming the same 71/29 split, that would provided an additional 3.72 million remain votes and an additional 1.52 leave votes, a difference of 2.2 million.
Just enough to take the referendum (a final difference of 1.27 million voters)
But as I've said, all those assumptions are impossible.
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What day was the referendum to join the common market held on?
What does that has to do with what I said? I repeat this is not just about Brexit but about every election done in this country.
One day someone will write a book about what Stan wants.