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Yeah my mistake I was ment to be it into the 500K thread(I had this thread opened at the same time).
I wasn't saying you were at fault (although admittedly the 500k would have been better), the bloke that made the tweet made the erroneous link, not you.

Apparently it's a producer of wildlife shows for David Attenborough … I wonder what these idiots did (that we don't see) to make the guy act so "primate" in the first place. Now it's a "media incident" that question will never be asked – the guy is sacked!
 
:lol: @ that road rage video. This in the comments underneath slayed me

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short summery of the negative side of Brexit. Posen is a huge EU fan, so his analysis is certainly one-sided nonetheless anyone who fancies Brexit (hardly anyone here, but personally I know some rather deluded people) should listen to this.
 



short summery of the negative side of Brexit. Posen is a huge EU fan, so his analysis is certainly one-sided nonetheless anyone who fancies Brexit (hardly anyone here, but personally I know some rather deluded people) should listen to this.


I don't think he says anything they haven't ignored a million times before.
 



short summery of the negative side of Brexit. Posen is a huge EU fan, so his analysis is certainly one-sided nonetheless anyone who fancies Brexit (hardly anyone here, but personally I know some rather deluded people) should listen to this.

Oh what a massive cnut. I knew as soon as he said that a problem with Europe was the welfare state that he was going to have a go at Corbyn.

Get him on that fecking steamboat.
 



short summery of the negative side of Brexit. Posen is a huge EU fan, so his analysis is certainly one-sided nonetheless anyone who fancies Brexit (hardly anyone here, but personally I know some rather deluded people) should listen to this.
You mention this already but he is heavily biased and is exaggerating massively sometimes to the point of lying (even though his general theme is correct). Not sure what the context of this speech is but he is not going to get through to one leaver with that stuff.
 
Councils ask Treasury to replace lost EU regeneration funds post-Brexit
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Kevin Bentley, an executive member of the LGA, said: “Since the referendum, one of the biggest concerns for councils has been the future of vital EU regeneration funding. Councils have used EU funds to help new businesses start up, create thousands of new jobs, roll out broadband and build new roads and bridges.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/28/treasury-eu-regeneration-funds-brexit-uk-eu
 
There has been good news just last week, if you chose to ignore it then tuff. For some people there will never be good news even when there is good news.

Hmm, so there was good news but you're not willing to share with us what that good news actually was? Seems legit.
 
Hmm, so there was good news but you're not willing to share with us what that good news actually was? Seems legit.

I went hunting: Maybe this???

I remember something about BMW announcing they would build their electric Mini in Oxford last week as well. Here's an article about it.

Also CBI manufacturing survey hits its highest level in 29 years (Financial times, so possibly paywalled).

The Telegraph also reported on the sector experiencing a growth in hiring.

The always trustworthy Trump administration also reaffirmed its earnest desire to pursue a trade deal with us. Apparently it will be very big and exciting.



Then again, maybe this.
 
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A lot of it, particularly the manufacturing stuff, is probably due to the weakness of the pound - itself caused in large part by Brexit.
 
My Brexiter mate was telling me how good 0.3% growth is.

Until I pointed out that we'll probably be bottom of the EU28 table for a second quarter running
 
My Brexiter mate was telling me how good 0.3% growth is.

Until I pointed out that we'll probably be bottom of the EU28 table for a second quarter running
That comparison is somewhat specious tbh- Europe took a lot longer to come out of recession and the UK has been pounding it for ages. I'll take any positive growth for now- certainly not relishing Q1 and Q2 in 2019...
 
That comparison is somewhat specious tbh- Europe took a lot longer to come out of recession and the UK has been pounding it for ages. I'll take any positive growth for now- certainly not relishing Q1 and Q2 in 2019...

As was pointed out 18 months ago but would they listen ... hence the expression "shooting yourself in the foot" - brilliantly done by the Brexiters
 
Boris says one thing, Davis says another, Hammond says something completely different only to be rebuked by Fox who says something completely different. Honestly I pity the EU negotiators. They probably don't know what has hit them and will be blamed by the Brexiters if things go tits up.
 
That comparison is somewhat specious tbh- Europe took a lot longer to come out of recession and the UK has been pounding it for ages. I'll take any positive growth for now- certainly not relishing Q1 and Q2 in 2019...

Not sure what you mean by that.
Specious - superficially plausible, but actually wrong.

I'd say it's the other way round. I freely admit we returned to growth faster than a few nations, and had better growth from 2012 to 2014.

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But to claim 0.2% and now 0.3% Growth is "good" is a bit worrying to me.
 
Not sure what you mean by that.


I'd say it's the other way round. I freely admit we returned to growth faster than a few nations, and had better growth from 2012 to 2014.

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But to claim 0.2% and now 0.3% Growth is "good" is a bit worrying to me.
You can see we've been ahead of Germany for about six years until now. By 'good', I'm merely saying that in comparison to what I fear is around the corner.
 
You can see we've been ahead of Germany for about six years until now. By 'good', I'm merely saying that in comparison to what I fear is around the corner.
Yeah. I'm absolutely regarding what comes next.

- UK Private debt up to record levels
- UK Government Debt approaching 100% GDP
- UK Deficit still around pre-2008 levels and set to increase this year
- A decade of QE.
- Brexit.

And whatever slack was in the UK economy has surely been taken up. Inflation has risen far faster than wages. Services have been cut year on year.

I know they say don't time the markets, but if there is the same crash again it would be a lot worse.
 
Its interesting if you look t the rise in poverty levels across Europe since the crash, obviously Greece are leading the pack by miles since they returned to the stone age, didn't they also have better growth % than the uk? Better growth does not necessarily mean 'Better times for everyone'

http://theconversation.com/how-poverty-has-radically-shifted-across-europe-in-the-last-decade-61047

I'm not sure the argument we're doing better than Greece is particularly compelling and you would imagine that better growth is a necessary even if insufficient condition for 'better times for everyone' - at least economically speaking.

If you control this chart for EU countries it transpires that the UK does not do extravagantly well on income inequality (You can also see changes over time by expanding the bar on the right of the options menu). What is interesting when playing with the timeline is how inequality is shown to have increased before the 09 crash, diminished during the crash and has been trending higher again ever since. The Tories are just the latest in a long line of governments that have ignored income inequality in this country.

Though still not splendid the OECD metrics do indicate we fare a bit better on both the poverty rate itself and the poverty gap (how far below the poverty line the poor actually are). That said, we still constantly fare worse than the EU average, and definitely worse than virtually all other advanced EU economies in both charts.

Altogether the charts seem to indicate we are the proud owners of a relatively unequal European economy, where a greater ratio of people live in poverty than average, and where those people are on average further below the poverty line than elsewhere in Europe.

Obviously this data has limitations since the variables are country specific and tied to that country's median income. By these metrics if 100% of people couldn't afford bread but everybody got the same piddling wage nobody would be defined as being in poverty. Meanwhile a stupendously rich economy where the poorest 10% could only afford a second hand ferrari while the median could afford a couple of islands would be riddled with it.

It is definitely useful data when comparing inequality though and following that inequality over time. Sadly we don't seem to be an admirable case.
 
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They're equally as stupid as the Brexit voters but 100% of Brexit voters wished economic damage on the UK because that outcome was a guaranteed certainty and for what purpose? "To get our country back"
It was slightly tongue in cheek as I don't really believe people mean it.

 
Dam stupid Brexit voters shooting themselves the foot.






Oh.


You left out the best part - that 61% of leave voters wouldn't object to significantly damaging the economy in return for leaving the EU; and 40% of the mostly retirretired over 65s wouldn't mind if their family members lost their jobs as a result.

Such a selfless bunch.
 
You left out the best part - that 61% of leave voters wouldn't object to significantly damaging the economy in return for leaving the EU; and 40% of the mostly retirretired over 65s wouldn't mind if their family members lost their jobs as a result.

Such a selfless bunch.
Oh God didn't see that one.