Any places worth going to will not let you in so easily. You are right that this country is dead anyway. Brexit is like performing CPR on somebody who died 3 weeks ago.
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Australia or New Zealand.
They have immigration control (they're obviously racist lol), on what basis would you qualify?
They have a points system to make sure the "rif-raff" don't get through and they send naval ships to block immigrants, I wouldn't hold Aus as a beacon of light in the World.
Fwiw @Chorley1974 , the UK also has quite tough immigration control and let in hardly any desperate Syrian refugees in their hour of need, an absolutely pathetic number they allowed in compared to Germany & Sweden.
But if you're from a first World country, it's really no problem to get around the point system and move to Australia.
"We must not be punitive, but at the same time it's clear that Europe knows how to defend its interests, and that Britain the UK will have a less good position tomorrow outside the EU than today in the EU."
Speaking earlier, French President Francois Hollande said there would inevitably be "a price and a cost for the UK - it's the choice that was made".
The European common market has been around since 1957, you won't find too many who have worked in a time when we haven't benefited from it. We now facing leaving without any trade deal in place meaning a mass recession is around the corner.
Speaking earlier, French President Francois Hollande said there would inevitably be "a price and a cost for the UK - it's the choice that was made".
The European common market has been around since 1957, you won't find too many who have worked in a time when we haven't benefited from it. We now facing leaving without any trade deal in place meaning a mass recession is around the corner.
The UK does have tough non EU immigration, my wife is in that category, so we have paid thousands for visas or the past 7 years. The rules for Aus aren't bent for first world country, I wouldn't just assume you can get in.
Imagine wanting to move because you think you can make a better go of it somewhere else. Bloody snowflakeffs
People who remember the time before the EU should be the most worried, we were fecked in the 70's.
I was talking about the EU, not a common market. Benefit is one perspective, we've paid a huge amount of money for membership of a club, and the UK voted on the basis that they don't think they are getting the value from it's subscription.
Imagine wanting to move because you think you can make a better go of it somewhere else. Bloody snowflake
boo hoo, taking my ball home....
Talk about simplification, we joined the EU and it fixed the country
Yes the EU moved the UK to a services economy
I always thought you lot were all about personal responsibility and taking back control of your lives?
late 60s and 70s - I was there - false memories of the Brexiters
I have 7 really close mates living over there on PR. So trust me on this, if you wanna get in from a first World country, it's a piece of piss.
what's 'you lot' mean? UK citizens?
Maybe the people I know aren't greasing the wheels in the same way.
Only one of those mates has a degree. There's a chef, a lad who worked in hospitality, a couple in recruitment, a girl in PR, and a labourer.
Getting PR in Aus is easy street, hell, just watch a few episodes of "Wanted down under" and you'll see what they accept
Only one of those mates has a degree. There's a chef, a lad who worked in hospitality, a couple in recruitment, a girl in PR, and a labourer.
Getting PR in Aus is easy street, hell, just watch a few episodes of "Wanted down under" and you'll see what they accept
Yeah but having a degree isn't what they necessarily need, they have a shit load of grads already. It's like the UK will be post brexit, we'll need a load of workers for less skilled job roles, it's not going to be about letting in those with the best degrees.
Thought these were exactly the people the Uk didn't want and would be filled by all those Brits that are out of work.
Talk about simplification, we joined the EU and it fixed the country
Gee, I guess it was a complete coincidence..
Why, what's the evidence for that?
I'm relatively naive in this narrative, my wife is brazilian, we have gone through the visa process several times, and at no point would consider there to be any difference whether you're from Syria or Brazil for example. What's the difference in Australia?
Not sure what you're smoking Paul, who's political narrative are you quoting?
Yep, the EU set up London to become the world's financial services powerhouse, I'd forgotten about that.
So the Uk has no problems about all those low-skilled Poles taking all their jobs, you can't make this up
Presumably when thousands of jobs and billions of pounds of business leave London after Brexit, that will also be a complete coincidence?
When you say the UK, who do you mean, the general public, the government? It's clear the UK needs these workers, but anyone I know who voted brexit did because of the inability to control the borders overall, and the growing EU legal/government span. Migration of labor has always happened, it's not an EU invention.
No it will be directly related, but to pretend that the EU promoted and built London as a financial powerhouse is somewhat different, no?
Could have sworn you were one of those who were complaining the loudest about the perception that Leave voters were stupid and/or racist and instead were looking out for themselves? Seems a bit odd to then mock someone for looking out for themselves - especially when it appears they're actually willing to do something rather than just whinge.
It was a genuine question, not mocking anyone, wanted a clarification as to what you lot means.
I don't remember saying that, I'm fairly sure you brought it up. The point you're trying to disguise with this is that pre-EU Britain was a mess, and a large part of our recovery came from our access to the single market and the increasing prosperity and cooperation of Europe.
When you say 'I can understand that if you're from a generation that never knew anything other than the EU that their is some nervousness' then like many other people have, you're trying to mislead people into thinking Britain was in a great position back then. It wasn't. Some of us still remember being the 'sick man of Europe' and have zero desire to go back to it.
I'll have a Computer Science degree in 3 years and they're crying out for IT experts, my old Boss/Head Chef's sister heads up the IT division for Commonwealth Bank in Sydney and he said she'd get me in no problem. Failing that, if I was desperate, I've already been offered sponsorship by a restaurant in Perth a couple of years ago so I'd pursue that route again until a permanent VISA was in place.
Lot's of british companies expired once in the EU, and lots prospered, my point was only that the unknown is scary. I'm not the wealthy elite, I'm a student of economics in my poor education. The whole we're doomed scenario I just find a bit weird, countries need to trade, and unless the EU is adamant on damaging it's member states as a point of principal against the UK then there will be a deal done. History may not even tell us as to whether the UK's massive net contribution to the UK was value for money.
Great, go for it, I can only recommend living and working in another country. Having done it myself, can only say why not if you have the opportunity. Slightly confused as to wtf brexit would have to do with it, if you have the opportunity to do it, then why not.
The UK became a wealthy country in large part off the back of trade with Europe. It's a huge part of our economy, and plenty more (such as the financial services in London) rely on EU links. Dropping out of not just the EU but the single market as well is not just scary, its fecking terrifying. Four decades of cooperation and trade has just been thrown away with no concrete alternative offered. How exactly are we supposed to feel confidence? What single, solitary thing has this ridiculous government done that should provide us with even a second of faith that the future can be brighter than the present?
I can understand you feel scared, I don't understand why you blame the government though, they are rather reluctantly following through on a decision of the people. Cameron decked up big time, he didn't get the result he wanted, so you can't really say it's a government decision.
Why feel positive, being outside the CAP will make food imports cheaper, we can still have immigration, we can get our fishing grounds back, we won't pay a massive surplus into the EU, we can pursue and expand our trade outside of the EU, we will have our legislation back. I didn't vote to leave, I simply would rather see the opportunity rather than take my ball home.
Those that voted Brexit and those that encouraged the voters to vote thus; of course they need these workers, people to work in the NHS, labourers, people to pick fruit and veg and so on, jobs Brits don't seem to want to do. The Uk have complete control over immigrants from outside the EU but they are close to 200000 alone, what has stopped them controlling them until now and asylum seekers are so few compared to many other EU countries. As pointed out many times before there are controls over EU immigrants as well and all this has been blamed on the EU because the government have not been able or willing to until now. Likelihood is nothing will change after the UK leave the EU either.
If and when the UK abandons the ECJ will there be an improvement for the better?
No. The big corporations became wealthy, as they were able to afford to conform to the EU's strict regulations and standards.
So what is stopping these links?
Have you stopped to think about the fact that it is the EU, not the European customers who we trade with?
Leaving the EU presents challenges for the big corporations, because all of a sudden they face competition from small businesses unable to afford to meet the ridiculously strict EU regulations
Like trade with the world?
So you believe that a bunch of bureaucrats in Brussels hold the power over our nation's prosperity, and you want to crawl back to them and kiss their arse?
Go ahead!
The government chose to interpret a single sentence 'Should the UK remain a member of the EU or leave the EU?' and translate that into 'Britain has voted to leave not only the EU but the single market and carry out the hardest possible Brexit'. This despite even the Leave campaigners repeatedly hammering home before the vote that in no way would a Brexit mean leaving the single market. They also spent 9 months making an enormous mess of things, sending mixed messages to everyone before deciding on hard Brexit, and offending and insulting the same European countries they insist they want to remain friends with.
Why would food imports be cheaper, when the value of the pound has fallen dramatically? We can still have immigration, but we've just made the country far less attractive to prospective immigrants. We can get back fishing grounds, that were drastically overfarmed in the past by us, and incidentally lose our rights to vote in other EU countries grounds. We won't pay a massive surplus into the EU, and we'll lose our tariff free access to the single market as a result. We can trade outside the EU, just like we already can, but for some reason appear to have chosen not to. Germany for instance have twice as much trade with India as we do. Why is that if the EU is such a barrier to outside trade?
It just feels like the country has done something so outrageously stupid that there really isn't a bright light waiting at the end of the tunnel.
You'd think London only provided financial services for Europe, crazy
Why not somewhere in the prosperous EU, Greece for example?