I think a dog wrote the white paper, that's an injustice to dogs though.
The victors = the conservatives guaranteed to be in power until 2025
The losers = the rest of the UK
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I think a dog wrote the white paper, that's an injustice to dogs though.
The victors = the conservatives guaranteed to be in power until 2025
The losers = the rest of the UK
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There's been a misunderstanding. It wasn't a White Paper, it was simply white paper.
The entire section on protecting workers' rights is very misleading. First of all it points out that "our labour market is a great strength of our economy: there are 31.8 million people in work in the UK and the employment rate is at a near-record high." Fantastic. And that's despite the fact that Britain is a member of the horrific tyranical EU.
Secondly, the paper brags about statutory annual and maternity leave, which in the UK is higher than outlined in the 2003 EU Working Time Directive. But the whole point of the Working Time Directive was to guarantee to workers a minimum daily rest period, a minimum annual leave, a maximum of wekly working hours, etc. If any EU member chooses to go beyond the minimum requirement, they are completely free to do so. This is also acknowledged in a footnote of the White Paper, section 7: "Individual Member States in the EU may exceed the EU minimum." How on earth can any of this be used as an argument that favours UK's departure from the EU? It's almost as if the White Paper is trying to provide the assurance that British workers' rights will not get worse once Britain leaves the EU. At least at the moment those rights are safeguarded and guaranteed by the EU.
Secondly, the paper brags about statutory annual and maternity leave, which in the UK is higher than outlined in the 2003 EU Working Time Directive. But the whole point of the Working Time Directive was to guarantee to workers a minimum daily rest period, a minimum annual leave, a maximum of wekly working hours, etc. If any EU member chooses to go beyond the minimum requirement, they are completely free to do so. This is also acknowledged in a footnote of the White Paper, section 7: "Individual Member States in the EU may exceed the EU minimum." How on earth can any of this be used as an argument that favours UK's departure from the EU? It's almost as if the White Paper is trying to provide the assurance that British workers' rights will not get worse once Britain leaves the EU. At least at the moment those rights are safeguarded and guaranteed by the EU.
Corbyn has always reminded me of a teacher coasting in the latter part of his career, so I reckon he demanded a word count. Problem is, he's the teacher nobody actually respects, so bollocks to him expecting anything meaningful.
He is that teacher who goes home at night and finds the back of his shirt splattered with ink.
well, their problem is that the economic impact of european migration to the UK is fairly well understood. While these kinds of studies are always a bit dodgy, their findings are fairly clear and just one google-klick away.
It takes time to come up with an assessment, that is somehow ignoring all of that.
It seems when May said 'no running commentary' all that time ago most caftards forgot it the next day. No idea why, to negotiate in public would be plain stupid.
"I don't have a coherent plan, and people defending my position will use simplistic analogies like not showing your cards when playing a poker game."
It's pretty much like any government document.
We know what her plan is, so does the EU, to try to have everything she can from the EU, but she's already been told that is not possible, i.e. the Cake and Eat it Plan.
The question is, when she doesn't get what she wants, what's the next step? Surely the British public , both Brexiters and Remainers , are entitled to know what is the plan then - because there is no Plan B other than she won't accept a bad deal and a vague waffle in the White Paper.
Why not just wait and see? Rather than prejudging the outcome of a negotiation which hasn't even begun.
Even when she folds.
As easy as a simplistic analysis of the situation such as 'not having a coherent plan' ?
Checkmate! Somebody's playing chess, not poker. Really, though, what plan? The White Paper's been dissected and the verdict is that it's pretty underwhelming.
She has been told repeatedly that she won't get any special deal and whatever deal she does get will not be close to the deal the UK has now.
Thus what happens then , someone has to make provisions for when the EU say no.
There should be plenty of discussions in parliament soon asking exactly these questions.. what if..?
The way the white paper is worded is typical of the arrogance that suggests that the EU will be begging the UK to agree to their terms, I think May will found out that the reverse is the reality.
Interesting that vegetable rationing has been introduced in some supermarkets because of supply problems from Spain. Supposing we had to import food from further abroad ?
Just shout at the soil that it should be proud to be British and randomly mumble some inane shite about being in control. It'll grow anything you want after that.
Something like "Arise lettuce" ?
Could be. Tell it that you have all of these plans about how you're going to incorporate it into a great meal, but neglect to mention that you're actually a pretty shit cook. Stupid vegetables are easy to trick.
It's always a good idea for an island that has to import most if its food to abandon the organisation that makes it easy and cheap. Boris will have an excuse to send the gunboats up the Guadalquivir.
Arise may be a bit fancy for a mere lettuce, we should save it for King Edward's.
Potatoes is the caf's equivalent of Godwin's law.
Or "Brussels, sprout!"
We are blaming continental weather on Brexit now? I don't think even Cameron went that far during the campaign.
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We haven't left yet, am I doing this right?
So this great system isn't working all that well and given the taxpayer subsidies, it isn't as cheap as world market price. If this issue tells us anything then it is that the UK should look outside the EU for additional suppliers.
No-one forces the UK to buy vegetables from the EU. There are no shortages in France.
Anyway the UK are supposed to be self-sufficient .
Understand they are now flying lettuces in from the USA- sounds cheap
Anyway the UK are supposed to be self-sufficient .
Understand they are now flying lettuces in from the USA- sounds cheap
It's time us remoaners faced the truth...
When we cast off the eu's shackles of oppression it's clear that a fantastic uk farming industry will not only be self sufficient in growing so much lettuce in february we will no doubt be exporting the excess tarif free back to the eu and beyond
When we cast off the eu's shackles of oppression it's clear that a fantastic uk farming industry will not only be self sufficient in growing so much lettuce in february we will no doubt be exporting the excess tarif free back to the eu and beyond
The esparagus i buy in the supermarket are from peru yet they are grown just a few miles away. it will be interesting to see what effects the eu restrictions on dairy farms has on prices. People are having to sell their farms thanks to the new ruling.
Brexit backers could get 'rude awakening' on immigration, says Stephen Crabb
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...-crabb/ar-AAmC7FI?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...-crabb/ar-AAmC7FI?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
Pro eu politician saying nothing surprising.
Calls for guarantee of eu citizens in uk before calling for guarantee from eu for the million brits there.
Tosser
Calls for guarantee of eu citizens in uk before calling for guarantee from eu for the million brits there.
Tosser
The government should just be guaranteeing the residency of EU citizens unilaterally, gives them a PR win doing something that everyone expects to happen regardless. Hopefully the amendment passes relatively easily.
Is that your new sign off sig?
If you want
Who'd have thought that countries would want easier access for their citizens as part of a deal. People who make the decisions obviously didn't.
No, we're commenting on the possibilty of food prices going up when we leave because tariffs or costs will go up. How much of our food do we import ?We are blaming continental weather on Brexit now? I don't think even Cameron went that far during the campaign.
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but Brexiters used to tell us that trade deal = FOM. You can just dig in someone's market, make money and just keep their people away
We import over 50% although some of that is due to our demands for out of season produce or things that simply won't grow in the British climate. We're a long way from self sufficiency though and the NFU estimates that by 2040 our farming industry will only be able to cope with 53% of the UK demand.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...f-of-uks-food-sourced-from-abroad-study-finds