A new global Britain alongside Trump and Erdogan.
Kim Jong Un will probably lining for a deal now
Kim Jong Un will probably lining for a deal now
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She's a practising Christian, there should be an inkling of conscience.
ISIS, journalists in jail, citizens locked up for speaking out against him, seriously unstable economy. Even if you want to turn a blind eye to all of the rest (it's more like covering your eyes and shouting, actually), the last one is quite relevant when it comes to striking a deal. On top of all of that, Turkey was the country used in Brexit propaganda. Pretty sad state of affairs when they then go and run to that country for a deal.
Ken Clarke brands the Tory Party 'anti-immigrant' in a memorable anti-Brexit speech to Parliament
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...r-AAmsHK6?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout#image=1
Always liked Ken Clarke.Not bad for a Tory
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...r-AAmsHK6?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout#image=1
Always liked Ken Clarke.Not bad for a Tory
Same.
Well she is only practising.
But unlike Ronaldo she has been practising for over 50 years and maybe 15 hours a day. So she should be pretty good at it by now.Salmond giving the Tories hell for leather there.
Peace out, Europe. The article 50 bill passed as expected.
Yay. Has the pound tanked yet?
Well that was a damp squib.
I wouldn't say that. This was probably the night the Labour party died.
Partys in total disarray. Hard to see where they go from here with Brexit dominating the politicial landscape for the next two years.
when he was running for leader of the tory party he promised if he won he would lead the party "unspun", i dunno why but i gained a lot of respect for him since.
He's always been willing to speak his mind, is by far one of the more liberal Tories, and his time as Chancellor generally seems to be looked back upon with fondness. Definitely a respectable figure.
Let me remind you article 50 has not been triggered yet.
Well, nobody can accuse the government of making the content of this Brexit white paper vague.
It's having a shite day, but that's down to the BoE sounding dovish in its inflation report.
Well, nobody can accuse the government of making the content of this Brexit white paper vague.
Well, nobody can accuse the government of making the content of this Brexit white paper vague.
It's a mess.
14 weeks annual leave lads.
It's a mess.
14 weeks annual leave lads.
Awesome. Looks like I can go on that break to Australia after all.
You don't know what you're doing!
You don't know what you're doing!
You don't know what you're doing!
This section seems to have been written by at least two people. At the start it, it claims divisions are healed and ends by dividing the country into winners and losers.
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Take it handy lads. I'll see ya when you come back to claim your empire, just be kind enough to keep your new ally erdogan out of it when the time comes.
Trump believes in Brexit as it will give him his empire.
You only have to notice how the Tory party are defending Trump's visit in the UK
It's a mess.
14 weeks annual leave lads.
Also, what exactly is the relevance of pointing out that Britain's maternity leave is above the 'EU minimum'?! It's not as if the government promises to increase maternity leave as soon as we're out because the EU is restricting us in any ways. It's just a prescribed minimum and you can go above it as much as you like, you just can't go below it!
Point 5.3 of the paper: "However, in the last decade or so, we have seen record levels of long term net migration in the UK and that sheer volume has given rise to public concern about pressure on public services, like schools and our infrastructure, especially housing..."
Would I be wrong in expecting just a little bit of raw data here, some numbers, what exactly is the cost of this uncontrolled migration and how it's ruining the economy? And exactly how much better off Britain will be once immigration is controlled? All it implies is that Britain is leaving the EU because of a "public concern".
Would I be wrong in expecting just a little bit of raw data here, some numbers, what exactly is the cost of this uncontrolled migration and how it's ruining the economy? And exactly how much better off Britain will be once immigration is controlled? All it implies is that Britain is leaving the EU because of a "public concern".
Which is precisely accurate in truth. It was never about anything factual.
The "public concerns" about immigration's impact on services rather than an actual impact. The "feeling" that we surrendered our sovereignty to European rule in spite of the stated fact that we had not.
With such a solid basis to their argument I can see how the victors should be allowed to revel in their magnanimity and us losers should just suck it up and respect them whilst they make Britain great again. Righto lads, wake me up when the job's done you bunch of lying xenophobic fecktards
With such a solid basis to their argument I can see how the victors should be allowed to revel in their magnanimity and us losers should just suck it up and respect them whilst they make Britain great again. Righto lads, wake me up when the job's done you bunch of lying xenophobic fecktards
"Public concern about pressure on public services like schools..."
So the solution is simple - invest more in the public services.
So the solution is simple - invest more in the public services.
Did bendy banana woman not win you over with her understandable justifications for leaving? Her comment was the perfect microcosm of small-minded thinking.
5.4 We will design our immigration system...
5.6 We will create an immigration system...
5.9 We are considering very carefully the options that are open to us to gain control of the numbers of people coming to the UK from the EU.
I actually thought the White Paper would outline in just a bit more detail what that future immigration system will look like.
5.6 We will create an immigration system...
5.9 We are considering very carefully the options that are open to us to gain control of the numbers of people coming to the UK from the EU.
I actually thought the White Paper would outline in just a bit more detail what that future immigration system will look like.
5.9
We are considering very carefully the options that are open to us to gain control of the numbers of people coming to the UK from the EU. As part of that, it is important that we understand the impacts on the different sectors of the economy and the labour market. We will, therefore, ensure that businesses and communities have the opportunity to contribute their views. Equally, we will need to understand the potential impacts of any proposed changes in all the parts of the UK. So we will build a comprehensive picture of the needs and interests of all parts of the UK and look to develop a system that works for all.
Sorry to go on about this and happy to be corrected- shouldn't all the parts which I bolded already been long understood?!
5.10
Implementing any new immigration arrangements for EU nationals and the support they receive will be complex and Parliament will have an important role in considering these matters further. There may be a phased process of implementation to prepare for the new arrangements. This would give businesses and individuals enough time to plan and prepare for those new arrangements.
In other words, we don't even understand the impact immigration is having, cannot evaluate benefits vs disbenefits, we don't understand what the risks are, we will change 'something', but it might take us xyz years to implement it. What a fecking plan.
We are considering very carefully the options that are open to us to gain control of the numbers of people coming to the UK from the EU. As part of that, it is important that we understand the impacts on the different sectors of the economy and the labour market. We will, therefore, ensure that businesses and communities have the opportunity to contribute their views. Equally, we will need to understand the potential impacts of any proposed changes in all the parts of the UK. So we will build a comprehensive picture of the needs and interests of all parts of the UK and look to develop a system that works for all.
Sorry to go on about this and happy to be corrected- shouldn't all the parts which I bolded already been long understood?!
5.10
Implementing any new immigration arrangements for EU nationals and the support they receive will be complex and Parliament will have an important role in considering these matters further. There may be a phased process of implementation to prepare for the new arrangements. This would give businesses and individuals enough time to plan and prepare for those new arrangements.
In other words, we don't even understand the impact immigration is having, cannot evaluate benefits vs disbenefits, we don't understand what the risks are, we will change 'something', but it might take us xyz years to implement it. What a fecking plan.
It's hilariously bad.
It reminds me of the days of adding random waffle into my coursework to make it look longer.
It reminds me of the days of adding random waffle into my coursework to make it look longer.
And the funny thing is that it totally disregard the opinion of the other side of the negotiation process. What makes them think the EU will be so patient?
From the outside looking in, it looks like the UK government is basically a bunch of interns asked to write up papers that sound all political and stuff. Oh, and if you could please extend the deadline for handing in the papers, that'd be real nice as well.
TBF its very difficult to write about something you don't know about. The UK negotiations so far lack 1 key element ie what the EU is willing to concede.
They should have just told Parliament that the dog ate their white paper and bought themselves a few extra weeks.