I wonder if we might see EDF and the Chinese pull out of Hinkley point - not to mention all the other infra projects we need that we were hoping the Chinese would finance for us
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But then if these poeple aren't genuine racists (and I don't believe they are FYI) - then why would being called one make them want to vote for a genuine racist?
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The 'no more brown people' is a bit of a bit of a lazy & unhelpful characterisation. I was brought up in 'one of these communities' (after we'd moved from Manchester). They hate everybody who isn't originally from there. Any outsider at all. Not a uique place by the looks & a persisting outlook. They perceive they get a raw deal when the ££££, facilities & opportuities are being handed out. But are at the front of the queue when cuts are needed. They have a point on this.
Don't give the silly twats a vote on something where a bit of consideration of the 'Big Picture' might be needed, ffs. Esp if The Big Picture stinks from where they are sat.
The 'no more brown people' is a bit of a bit of a lazy & unhelpful characterisation. I was brought up in 'one of these communities' (after we'd moved from Manchester). They hate everybody who isn't originally from there. Any outsider at all. Not a uique place by the looks & a persisting outlook. They perceive they get a raw deal when the ££££, facilities & opportuities are being handed out. But are at the front of the queue when cuts are needed. They have a point on this.
Don't give the silly twats a vote on something where a bit of consideration of the 'Big Picture' might be needed, ffs. Esp if The Big Picture stinks from where they are sat.
Martin Schulz and Schauble say no to Norway-style UK single market access
I hope they change their mind.
I rarely care about anything these days and even when I do care, I tend to let sarcasm rule over and turn things into a jab/joke (call it defensive mechanism or me being a cnut but that's how things work). However I am finding this issue particularly difficult to ignore.
I was raised in a family that was fiercely anglophile and I lived in Britain for enough time to consider this damn place as a second home. Seriously guys you deserve and you should expect better then this
I checked the raw polling data on this. Between ~20-50% of Leavers think feminism, the green movement, multiculturalism and LGBT rights are forces for ill
Of 6420 Leavers
- 47% multiculturalism = force for ill
- 23% feminism = force for ill
- 30% green movement = force for ill
- 37% LGBT rights = force for ill
Well done Britain
The UK Trumpites.
Dow Jones plummeting
Gender equality good, feminism bad.
Isn't this just a ploy to rally the troops? All of this is a few years away so they would hardly send an email saying everything is set fo disaster.
Feminism = gender equality. Do your research.
Yes it is. I had mulled selling before the vote but really didn't think we could be so stupid.
International companies are definitely going to leave London. How many is obviously pure speculation, but they will go. The likes of Frankfurt and Dublin and simply more logical choices for them now.
Yeah our CEO just issued our don't panic statement to the markets so I can imagine him sidling slowly towards the last lifeboat right now. Can't blame him though, I've already had a word with the bosses about whether I'd be better for them in Belgium, France or the Netherlands, the only thing we really keep here in the UK is our stock listing and the board, everything tangible is produced in Europe.
Because as hate builds, people start moving to extreme opposite ends of the spectrum.
Because they think everyone including them are being called racist, so its probably the same for the likes of Trump. Kind of crying wolf thing.
Most people may not be racist but most people are Idiots.
No actually, like I pointed out, most international companies operate without boarders and for some for whom the EU blocked international expansionism it may be advantageous.
Anyway, the point was, for those people who are hailing the apocalypse and acting as though this is the millennium bug mk. 2 obviously don't understand that businesses would have already conducted risk analysis for such an incident, many will be prepared.
The higher the level of education, the higher the EU support - According the polls, university graduates were the most likely people to want to remain in the EU - while those with a GCSE or equivalent as their highest qualification were more likely to back Brexit.
Pick the Netherlands.
Tbh, this is a move without precedent. Nobody can be expected to have an idea as the dynamics are too variable to predict.
- EU will play hardball and that'll definitely screw up the brits big time.
- Sovereign credit ratings will get cut and that'll reduce investment.
- Other indirect political fallout from Nato, Gibraltar etc.
Either way, I think what everyone did not consider (or maybe considered and ignored/accepted) was that the in short term (5 years) UK will suffer from recession.
I do not envy Boris or whoever succeeds as PM now as they are going to roasted alive.
I checked the raw polling data on this. Between ~20-50% of Leavers think feminism, the green movement, multiculturalism and LGBT rights are forces for ill
Of 6420 Leavers
- 47% multiculturalism = force for ill
- 23% feminism = force for ill
- 30% green movement = force for ill
- 37% LGBT rights = force for ill
Well done Britain
Not a the kind of place I want to live. Those thoughts on multiculturalism and immigration are worrying.
Oh, so it wasn't stereotyping after all. Hmm... how about that.
Not to distract attention from your own problems but I've just heard a discussion on Irish radio come to the conclusion that Brexit is as bad a thing as could happen to Ireland short of the outbreak of war.
Thanks a bunch guys.
Thanks a bunch guys.
I'm not being a dick, but in many cases a business 'being prepared' for Brexit just means they are prepared to let a % of staff go.
Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
That's true.
Just worries me - I still like to think people are decent people, even if they are misguided / misinformed / worried about immigration / whatever... so I wouldn't like to think they'll pushed towards actual racism just because someone may suggest they are a racist (even though they're not).
... if that all makes sense.
I don't have a degree, so I buck the trend then, I voted to stay in.
News already that Morgan Stanley are moving jobs out of UK to Scotland/Germany (which they are denying btw).
C4 News correspondent says three different people in five minutes have shouted "send them home" in Barnsley
Dublin, actually!
What a surprise.
Third wave feminism is pretty fecking negative.
How?
I would but for the fact that our office is in Arnhem which is hardly the most thrilling place and when we moved back to the UK from Asia it was partly to be near our daughter and our ageing parents. Bruges, Ghent or Lille would be my preferred options as they would only put us a couple of hours at most from our daughter in Kent and would not add too much to trips to see the folks.
See, it's things like this that I find the most worrying.
Did they think by voting Leave all immigrants would suddenly be deported back to Mars?
My concern is that as the uncertainty over exit drags on into near 2019, potentially with transitional measures, a lot of voters will become more disaffected, as they don't see things changing quickly enough.
It isn't as simple as that, the implications of a decision such as this will be felt for far longer than 15 years so someone who isn't likely to be alive then shouldn't have an equal say to someone whose whole lifetime will be affected by this decision.
The peace treaty was reliant on freedom of travel between North and South and the enshrining of the ECHR into Irish law both sides of the border. Closing and remilitarising the border and pulling out of the ECHR would not be the wisest of moves.
That's the situation in the markets right now though. If/when businesses start leaving, the BoE can only prop things up for so long.
Agree.
Fair enough. Bruges is a lovely place, I lived in Brussels for a couple of years and would frequent there regularly.
If you're a beer drinker you're in for a treat too!